{"id":5703,"date":"2004-01-21T07:23:51","date_gmt":"2004-01-21T14:23:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/01\/21\/two-political-notes.html"},"modified":"2004-01-21T07:23:51","modified_gmt":"2004-01-21T14:23:51","slug":"two_political_n","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/01\/21\/two_political_n.html","title":{"rendered":"Two political notes"},"content":{"rendered":"
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  1. Personally, I didn’t find anything all that offbeat about Howard Dean’s “To New Hampshire — and Beyond!” speech Monday night. I know a lot of anti-Dean folk found it so over-the-top that bits and pieces of it (particularly the final primal scream) showed up as MP3 files all over the Net Tuesday — but to me it was a just a rousing chorus of defiance-in-defeat by a guy who clearly needs a voice teacher to keep him from going mute in the next week or two.\n

    I mean, if you want to make fun of Dean or portray him as a maniac, there’s plenty of other material to do it with. Overreaching doesn’t help your point.<\/p>\n

  2. Yes, it’s usually used as a political speech, and, yes, it’s an election year, so it’s even more political than usual. But at least the State of the Union is a Constitutionally-mandated event <\/i>(even though giving it in person, as a speech to Congress, was not the initial tradition), by the elected President<\/i>, and so warrents a certain degree of media coverage.\n

    The Opposition Response is neither mandated nor equivalent. It’s just political grandstanding, a lengthy “Oh, yeah?” that we don’t really need to give equal stature to. I didn’t care for the “political equivalency” feel to it during the Clinton years, and I still don’t care for it now. The Senate or House minority leadership, or the up-and-coming political star of the opposition party, does not have the same standing as the President, and turning the SotU into a formalized Point-Counterpoint just feels tacky to me. Save it for the 11 o’clock news, or the Op-Ed the next day.<\/ol>\n<\/p>\n

    That is all. Go back to work.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

    Personally, I didn’t find anything all that offbeat about Howard Dean’s “To New Hampshire — and Beyond!” speech Monday night. I know a lot of anti-Dean folk found it so…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5703","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics-law"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":5669,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/01\/27\/perhaps_hed_sup.html","url_meta":{"origin":5703,"position":0},"title":"Perhaps he’d support a Free Speech Zone approach","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 27-Jan-04 12:56pm","format":false,"excerpt":"In defense of \"freedom of speech,\" Al Franken body-slammed a heckler from behind and threw him to the ground at a New Hampshire Dean campaign stop. \"I got down low...","rel":"","context":"In "ZT & PC"","block_context":{"text":"ZT & PC","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/zt-pc"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":28588,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/07\/15\/public-pensions-and-political-speech.html","url_meta":{"origin":5703,"position":1},"title":"Public Pensions and Political Speech","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 15-Jul-12 11:35am","format":false,"excerpt":"The GOP continually lambastes unions for collecting dues from employee members and then using them for political purposes without those union members having a say. \u00a0But Citizens United means that public pension plans, paid into by public employees and invested into corporations, are providing significant money to let corporations \"speak\"\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "~PlusPosts"","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":48569,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/11\/29\/level-of-american-political-rhetoric-report-nursery-school-edition.html","url_meta":{"origin":5703,"position":2},"title":"Level of American Political Rhetoric Report: Nursery School Edition","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 29-Nov-14 2:35pm","format":false,"excerpt":"The GOP now controlling (or poised to control) both chambers of Congress, apparently there is serious consideration (or at least pointedly-public rhetorical nattering) about \"disinviting\" Pres. 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