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Britain’s House of Lords has put new limits on corporal punishment of children in the UK by their parents<\/a>. Previous law, over a century old, had allowed parents to hit children as “reasonable chastisement,” but the new law puts further restrictions.<\/p>\n

The discussion offered the Lords two options \u2014 to approve an outright ban on hitting, or to back a new law that would permit such punishment provided it did not cause physical or mental harm. Any striking that caused bruising, scratching or reddening of the skin would be unlawful.
\n“The question is whether all parental smacking should constitute a criminal offense even where it does not cause physical or mental harm,” said Lord Lester of Herne Hill, from the Liberal Democrat opposition, who, like Mr. Blair, opposed a total ban.<\/p>\n

“Reddening of the skin”? Yeesh.<\/p>\n

I’m not a big supporter of smacking around your kid, to be sure. I’ve not (yet) spanked Katherine — but I do, when it seems appropriate, use a flick of the finger to an ear, or back of the hand. That’s reserved for cases where verbal “chastisement” or time-outs have proven inadequate or infeasible.<\/p>\n

But I’d much rather see that decision be my decision, and not be second-guessing to what degree someone might consider a particular action “unlawful” or abusive. And, for that matter, given that the corporal punishment unleashed on my own posterior in my youth cuase some distinct “reddening,” I find it difficult to reconcile my own interpretation of that experience with someone’s conclusion that it was physical abuse that would now require intervention by the law.<\/p>\n

(via Cronaca<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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