{"id":60,"date":"2003-07-03T10:13:13","date_gmt":"2003-07-03T15:13:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=60"},"modified":"2003-07-03T10:13:13","modified_gmt":"2003-07-03T15:13:13","slug":"and_while_were","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/07\/03\/and_while_were.html","title":{"rendered":"And while we&#8217;re on the subject &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ghost of a Flea has a fine post on the long-overdue memorial being put up in Berlin to commemorate <a title=\": This only took sixty years\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ghostofaflea.com\/archives\/000090.html\">the gay victims of the Nazi Holocaust<\/a>.  <\/p>\n<p>Without taking anything away from the horror of the &#8220;Final Solution&#8221; that the Nazis unleashed against the Jews, it&#8217;s worth remembering that many other &#8220;undesirable&#8221; groups were subject to arrest, torture, imprisonment in concentration camps, &#8220;medical&#8221; experimentation, and execution in Germany during that era.  Homosexuals, gypsies, political dissidents, Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses, Communists and Trade Unionists &#8230; all were imprisoned and died by the thousands.<\/p>\n<p>Some 100,000 men (only male homosexuality was a crime) were arrested under a harshened 1935 anti-sodomy statute.  5-15,000 of those convicted ended up in the concentration camps, where they were often treated harshly both by guards and inmates alike.<\/p>\n<p>In a particuarly cruel irony, the homosexuals freed from the concentration camps by Allied forces &#8230; were then transferred to German prisons to serve out the remainder of their terms.  Nor were they ever provided any reparations from the German state.  The Nazi-era anti-sodomy law remained on the books in West Germany until 1969.<\/p>\n<p>Let us <a href=\"http:\/\/www.holocaust-trc.org\/homosx.htm\">never forget <\/a>&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><u>UPDATE<\/u>:  And for those who might be <a href=\"http:\/\/silflayhraka.com\/archives\/000091.html\">forgetting<\/a> &#8230; <small>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.isthatlegal.org\/archives\/2003_06_29_isthatlegal_archive.html#105720208554502447\">ITL?<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ghost of a Flea has a fine post on the long-overdue memorial being put up in Berlin to commemorate the gay victims of the Nazi Holocaust. 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