{"id":6031,"date":"2004-06-03T14:54:12","date_gmt":"2004-06-03T21:54:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/06\/03\/but-wait-theres-a-sequel.html"},"modified":"2009-08-05T23:38:33","modified_gmt":"2009-08-06T05:38:33","slug":"but_wait_theres-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/06\/03\/but_wait_theres-2.html","title":{"rendered":"But wait!  There&#8217;s a sequel!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Evidently not satisfied with Bishop O&#8217;Neill&#8217;s letter of reprimand (a\/k\/a &#8220;Godly Admonition&#8221;) to Bonnie, or interested in giving the bishop time to complete his policy review on such matters, the conservative clergy in Colorado are <a title=\"Rocky Mountain News: Religion\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rockymountainnews.com\/drmn\/religion\/article\/0,1299,DRMN_61_2933947,00.html\">making threatening rumbles<\/a>. demanding harsher action.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Conservative Episcopalians will ask Bishop Rob O&#8217;Neill to impose harsher sanctions against the Rev. Bonnie Spen<!-- bonnie -->cer, an assistant pastor who participated in a same-sex ritual at Good Shep<!-- my parish -->herd Church in Centen<!-- my town -->nial.<\/p>\n<p>In a letter sent to O&#8217;Neill last weekend, a conservative leader criticized the bishop&#8217;s handling of the matter, which was to impose a &#8220;godly admonition,&#8221; the lightest rebuke possible. In his decision, issued last week, O&#8217;Neill also authorized Spencer to take a six-week leave of absence.<\/p>\n<p>The Rev. Don Armstrong, of Colorado Springs, warned in a letter to O&#8217;Neill that conservatives plan to demand that he consider defrocking Spen<!-- Bonnie -->cer and firing the church&#8217;s interim rector who approved the ritual.<br \/>\n&#8220;What Bonnie did . . . is clearly a same-sex blessing, and that must be stopped,&#8221; Armstrong said.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, given that the actual letter from Rev. Armstrong isn&#8217;t available, and given the through-a-word-processor-darkly nature of how previous letters from folks in this case have been somewhat mangled by the <i>Rocky<\/i>, I hate to draw too many conclusions here.<\/p>\n<p>Still, it seems to me extraordinary that there be a demand to have Bonnie &#8220;defrocked&#8221; in this matter.  And Rev. Armstrong would know as well as anyone else that our interim rector is actually hired by the parish, not the bishop; while I&#8217;m sure the bishop could, should he choose to do so, exert pressure on our parish to let Rev. Need go, I don&#8217;t believe he can actually &#8220;fire&#8221; her on our behalf.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m also not sure how this balances with <a href=\"http:\/\/denverpost.com\/Stories\/0,1413,36%257E53%257E2179711,00.html\">Armstrong&#8217;s previous statement<\/a>, in the Denver Post, apparently approving of the bishop&#8217;s actions (which had been communcated at that time): &#8220;&#8221;I think what he&#8217;s done is struck the right chord for the moment.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll wait until the apparently-leaked (if not CCed) letter to the bishop makes it online to make any further comment.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Evidently not satisfied with Bishop O&#8217;Neill&#8217;s letter of reprimand (a\/k\/a &#8220;Godly Admonition&#8221;) to Bonnie, or interested in giving the bishop time to complete his policy review on such matters, the&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[64,25,57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6031","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-religion-episcopal-church","category-gay-stuff","category-religion-my-parish"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":6067,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/05\/31\/why_yes_this_is-3.html","url_meta":{"origin":6031,"position":0},"title":"Why, yes, this is my church, Part III","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 31-May-04 7:17am","format":false,"excerpt":"This story about the hopeful final (or at least climactic) chapter the brouhaha at our parish is relatively accurate, if still in error in a couple of particulars. 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