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Most of the people I&#8217;ve heard commenting on Red Tuesday has been angry, dismayed, etc., but most have also had a sense of level-headedness, of not wanting to act wrongly, precipitously, not tarring another people with one brush, not proposing violence and bloodshed of innocents to match what has been done to us.<\/p>\n<p>Fortunate because I suspect my blood pressure has already been running high, and I hardly need a stroke at this point.<\/p>\n<p>We have an American flag flying in front of the house.  It will be up there at least through the weekend.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When does patriotism become jingoism? 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