{"id":6179,"date":"2004-04-30T09:04:35","date_gmt":"2004-04-30T16:04:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/04\/30\/shame.html"},"modified":"2004-04-30T09:04:35","modified_gmt":"2004-04-30T16:04:35","slug":"shame","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/04\/30\/shame.html","title":{"rendered":"Shame"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Disgusting reports here on the <a title=\"The New York Times - Washington -Treatment of Prisoners: G.I.'s Are Accused of Abusing Iraqi Captives\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2004\/04\/29\/politics\/29ABUS.html\">mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners<\/a> in a military prison.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">In one <a href=\"http:\/\/www.livejournal.com\/users\/thebitingfaery\/230018.html?view=3294850#t3294850\">photograph <\/a>obtained by the program, naked Iraq prisoners are stacked in a human pyramid, one with a slur written on his skin in English. In another, a prisoner stands on a box, his head covered, wires attached to his body. The program said that according to the United States Army, he had been told that if he fell off the box, he would be electrocuted. Other photographs show male prisoners positioned to simulate sex with each other.<br \/>\n&#8220;The pictures show Americans, men and women, in military uniforms, posing with naked Iraqi prisoners,&#8221; states a transcript of the program&#8217;s script, made available Wednesday night. &#8220;And in most of the pictures, the Americans are laughing, posing, pointing or giving the camera a thumbs-up.&#8221; <br \/>\nThe CBS News program said the Army also had photographs showing a detainee with wires attached to his genitals and another showing a dog attacking an Iraqi prisoner. The program also reported that the Army&#8217;s investigation of the case included a statement from an Iraqi detainee who charges that a translator hired to work at the prison raped a male juvenile prisoner.<\/p>\n<p>I definitely agree that the officials in charge of the prison should get nailed to the wall for this one, for it happening on their watch if nothing else.  The brigadier general in charge of the prison has been reassigned &#8212; while I doubt he&#8217;ll get court martialled or anything, I expect (and hope) it will be a career-stopper.<\/p>\n<p>My only disagreement with the article is the self-serving excuses from the defense attorney for one of the soldiers involved.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">Gary Myers, the lawyer for one of the enlisted men charged, said in an interview that the military had treated the six soldiers as scapegoats and had failed to address adequately the responsibilities of senior commanders and intelligence personnel involved in the interrogations.<br \/>\nMr. Myers said the accused men, all from an Army Reserve military police unit, had been told to soften up the prisoners by more senior American interrogators, some of whom they believe were intelligence officials and outside contractors.<br \/>\n&#8220;This case involves a monumental failure of leadership, where lower-level enlisted people are being scapegoated,&#8221; Mr. Myers said. &#8220;The real story is not in these six young enlisted people. The real story is the manner in which the intelligence community forced them into this position.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Bullshit.  This is not a matter of &#8220;inadequate training&#8221; or being pressured by intelligence officers, or scapegoating, or anything else.  The behavior described and in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.livejournal.com\/users\/thebitingfaery\/230018.html?view=3294850#t3294850\">the photos <\/a>is clearly wrong, and is clearly a matter for jollity by the perpetrators.  They deserve the full punishment for their actions, if so convicted by the courts martial they face.<\/p>\n<p><small>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gamersnook.com\/blog\/archives\/002340.html#002340\">Scott<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Disgusting reports here on the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners in a military prison. In one photograph obtained by the program, naked Iraq prisoners are stacked in a human pyramid, one&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6179","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-geopolitical-brouhaha"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":27489,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/04\/20\/the-free-but-chained-market.html","url_meta":{"origin":6179,"position":0},"title":"The Free (but Chained) Market","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 20-Apr-12 12:44pm","format":false,"excerpt":"The return of the Gilded Age and cheap, chain-gang labor. 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