We managed to watch about ten minutes of the debates before Margie insisted she had to leave the room (her Cheney threshold is a lot lower than mine). Since I’d seen all I really wanted to see myself, I just changed the channel. Doubtless that means I missed the Really Key Moment that Proved That Guy’s A Lying Buffoon If Only I’d Seen It (fill in the That Guy of your choice).<\/p>\n
Major observation:<\/p>\n
I’d certainly much rather hear John Edwards giving speeches for the next four years. I’m less sure I’d rather have him representing the US at a negotiating table.<\/p>\n
I find Cheney’s “we” and “our” (Administration) references only slightly less irritating than Edwards’ “John Kerry and John Edwards” third person references. Neither of them used the first person singular enough.<\/p>\n
I didn’t find either of them significantly less fact-challenged than the other. Both repeated the same charges as their campaign ads have been making, with the same errors<\/a> and misrepresentations<\/a>. Both were willing to paint things as jet black or gleaming white depending on what their own interests wanted it to be.<\/p>\n Feh.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" We managed to watch about ten minutes of the debates before Margie insisted she had to leave the room (her Cheney threshold is a lot lower than mine). 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