{"id":6308,"date":"2004-09-23T13:01:31","date_gmt":"2004-09-23T20:01:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/09\/23\/so-funny-i-forgot-to-laugh.html"},"modified":"2004-09-23T13:01:31","modified_gmt":"2004-09-23T20:01:31","slug":"so_funny_i_forg","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/09\/23\/so_funny_i_forg.html","title":{"rendered":"So funny, I forgot to laugh"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jimmy Swaggart apologized for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/09\/20\/how_christlike.html\" target=\"_blank\">his comments the other day<\/a> about, should a gay man look upon him romantically\/lustfully, he&#8217;d &#8220;kill him and tell God he died.&#8221;  Or so I <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wesroth.com\/index.htm#JS\" target=\"_blank\">read<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Then I read the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newsday.com\/news\/nationworld\/nation\/wire\/sns-ap-swaggart-gay-comment,0,7378442.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines\" target=\"_blank\">apology<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">On Wednesday, Swaggart said he has jokingly used the expression &#8220;killing someone and telling God he died&#8221; thousands of times, about all sorts of people. He said the expression is figurative and not meant to harm.<br \/>\n&#8220;It&#8217;s a humorous statement that doesn&#8217;t mean anything. You can&#8217;t lie to God &#8212; it&#8217;s ridiculous,&#8221; Swaggart told The Associated Press. &#8220;If it&#8217;s an insult, I certainly didn&#8217;t think it was, but if they are offended, then I certainly offer an apology.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Hey, way to go on the Sincere-o-Meter, Jimmy.  How humble and humility-filled, how concerned over how others might be hurt or threatened by your words.  <em>If <\/em>it&#8217;s an insult, <em>if <\/em>they&#8217;re offended &#8230; nicely said.<\/p>\n<p>You mean you actually joke all the time about killing people, then nudge-and-winking God about about it?  How Christ-like, again!<\/p>\n<p>How &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; wait.  I ought not attack someone&#8217;s motives, but give them the benefit of the doubt, right?  Consider their actions, not debate or presume about their good will.  So &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><em>Jimmy, your words belie the Christian concept of &#8220;hate the sin, love the sinner.&#8221;  They provide, even if not intended, both fodder for those who consider Christians to be intolerant bigots, and for those who are prone to un-Christian violence against gays.  They were ill-considered to start with, and your &#8220;aw, shucks, I was just kidding, don&#8217;t take it so seriously&#8221; response is not an apology, but a dismissal, not a reaching out but a pushing away.  That would be difficult to accept in anyone who considers themselves a Christian, but coming from someone who leads a <strong>public ministry in Christ&#8217;s name<\/strong> it seems particularly difficult to reconcile with Jesus&#8217; ministry &#8212; as well as being difficult to reconcile with the stated <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jsm.org\/html\/jimmy_swaggart.htm\" target=\"_blank\">mission<\/a> of your Jimmy Swaggart Ministries &#8212; &#8220;Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature&#8221; (Mark 16:15) &#8212; or the intent of your World Evangelism Fellowship &#8211;&#8220;The call of God to win the lost is clear.&#8221;  I do not understand how even such &#8220;jokes&#8221; can serve as such preaching, nor dismissal of feelings &#8220;win the lost.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Or, put more bluntly, Jimmy, get your head out of your ass and stop being a scandal to the faith and cause you claim to profess.  Yeesh.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jimmy Swaggart apologized for his comments the other day about, should a gay man look upon him romantically\/lustfully, he&#8217;d &#8220;kill him and tell God he died.&#8221; Or so I read&#8230;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[27,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6308","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-religion","category-zt-pc"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":6329,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/09\/20\/how_christlike.html","url_meta":{"origin":6308,"position":0},"title":"How Christlike &#8230; not","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 20-Sep-04 9:52pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It's perhaps inappropriate to ascribe motivations to people, but certainly it's not inappropriate to say that Jimmy Swaggart doesn't seem particuarly Christian in this proclamation: During the program, a rambling...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;LGBTQ &amp;c&quot;","block_context":{"text":"LGBTQ &amp;c","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/gay-stuff"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":8722,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2005\/08\/29\/ch_ch_ch_change-2.html","url_meta":{"origin":6308,"position":1},"title":"Ch-ch-ch-changes","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 29-Aug-05 10:52am","format":false,"excerpt":"Beloit College is known for many things, but most of all for its class mind-set listing, updated each year, to give some context to what this year's freshmen have grown...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Disney\/Pixar&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Disney\/Pixar","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/media\/franchises\/disney"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":27002,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/03\/08\/you-can-scrub-but-you-cant-hide-on-the-internet.html","url_meta":{"origin":6308,"position":2},"title":"You can scrub, but you can&#39;t hide, on the Internet","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 8-Mar-12 11:48am","format":false,"excerpt":"To be fair, Rush might simply be taking down material that he's apologized for. 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