{"id":660,"date":"2001-09-05T08:48:20","date_gmt":"2001-09-05T13:48:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=660"},"modified":"2001-09-05T08:48:20","modified_gmt":"2001-09-05T13:48:20","slug":"red_of_tooth_an","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2001\/09\/05\/red_of_tooth_an.html","title":{"rendered":"Red of tooth and claw"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As I write, we have Israeli military forces firing frickin&#8217; missiles into buildings where they think Palestinian leaders or security forces are.  And if a few bystanders get killed, <i>c&#8217;est la vie<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, Palestinians are sending suicide bombers into pizza parlors.  That&#8217;s productive.<\/p>\n<p>Actually, if I were leading the Palestinians, I&#8217;d be following the Israeli tactic.  Target soldiers.  Target officers.  Target leaders.  Not only would that lend credence to the idea that you are fighting a <i>war <\/i>against your oppressors, and give you more support from the outside world, but it might make those same Israeli leaders more willing to talk peace.  <\/p>\n<p>At the same time, while the Israelis are scoring hits, in the long run they&#8217;re merely fragmenting (figuratively, as well as literally) the Palestinian leadership.  Which means that negotiating with anyone is going to be increasingly difficult.<\/p>\n<p>And, frankly, Israel is losing the publicity war.  Sure, every pizza parlor the Palestinians bomb simply tars their whole &#8220;side&#8221; as a bunch of terrorists.  But when Israel uses tanks and jet fighters and attack helicopters to blow up buildings, they come across as a Goliath vs. the Palestinian David.  And we know who to root for in that competition.  It&#8217;s even worse when collateral damage (i.e., innocent bystanders) get fragged in the process.<\/p>\n<p>I found it morbidly amusing that Arafat has been trying to get the UN Conference on Racism, Intolerance, Xenophobia, and Related Stuff to declare Israel to be acting in a racist fashion toward the Palestinians. There&#8217;s arguably something to that &#8212; but it seems to me there&#8217;s a large degree of blackness in the kettle making the accusation at the pot.<\/p>\n<p>As long as it&#8217;s a battle of Jews vs. Muslims, or Israelis vs. Palestinians, it&#8217;s a racist, ethnicist, xenophobic problem, on both sides.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know what the answer is.  Sometimes I think we should just bomb the whole region down into a glassy plain.  Other times, I think the Israelis should simply move the Palestinians (including in Gaza) lock, stock, and barrel into the West Bank, build a big wall, and then say, &#8220;That&#8217;s yours, this is ours, &#8217;nuff said.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think either of those is a good answer.  But both are temptingly neat and simple (and bloody and final).<\/p>\n<p>Peace &#8212; peace strong enough to get the majority of folks involved committed to it &#8212; has been so close, so many times.  And there is so much bloody blame to heap on both sides, that neither can wear a white hat.  I have to condemn, first and most of all, any side whose tactics are explicitly terrorist, who act in the <i>most <\/i>racist fashion because they consider anyone on the &#8220;opposite side&#8221; &#8212; wearing a uniform or not &#8212; to be an enemy.  But the Israelis have more than tarnished their own shield here, between heavy-handed military action and police state tactics against anyone even suspected of being a Palestinian terrorist.<\/p>\n<p>I would wish a pox on both their houses, but that&#8217;s clearly already the case.  Because the biggest losers here are the haters, but the ones who merely want to live a life of peace and dignity, raising their families.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, in Northern Ireland, Protestant protesters (&#8220;Those bloody Catholics are marching their bloody Catholic kids through our Protestant neighborhood on the way to their bloody Catholic school as a deliberate provocation!&#8221;) are throwing bricks and frickin&#8217; home-made bombs at <i>schoolchildren<\/i>.  <\/p>\n<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, any &#8220;credit&#8221; the Protestant activists up there had by facing off against a truly bloody terrorist organization (the IRA) has been squandered by their own terrorist tactics.<\/p>\n<p>Okay.  Enough of those depressing tactics.  My blood pressure is already too high.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As I write, we have Israeli military forces firing frickin&#8217; missiles into buildings where they think Palestinian leaders or security forces are. 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