{"id":6712,"date":"2004-07-29T09:44:27","date_gmt":"2004-07-29T16:44:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/07\/29\/bread-or-booze.html"},"modified":"2004-07-29T09:44:27","modified_gmt":"2004-07-29T16:44:27","slug":"bread_or_booze","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/07\/29\/bread_or_booze.html","title":{"rendered":"Bread or booze?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Paul Musgrave provides a graphic example of how <a title=\"Joshua Claybourn's Domain: Civility in public discourse.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.joshclaybourn.com\/blog\/archives\/002354.html\">political incivility wasn&#8217;t invented in the last few years<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Certainly not.  Has it gotten worse?  Has it moved from beyond attack dog functionaries to the candidates themselves?  Or all we all pining for a golden age which never existed.<\/p>\n<p>No idea.  But I&#8217;m not only tired of it this cycle, I&#8217;m tired of the conventions suddenly becoming open season to fight the tired battles from the <em>previous <\/em>administrations.  Feh.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Paul Musgrave provides a graphic example of how political incivility wasn&#8217;t invented in the last few years. Certainly not. Has it gotten worse? 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