{"id":6839,"date":"2004-12-21T10:47:04","date_gmt":"2004-12-21T17:47:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/12\/21\/proof-of-harm.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T15:20:20","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T22:20:20","slug":"proof_of_harm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/12\/21\/proof_of_harm.html","title":{"rendered":"Proof of harm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Gay marriage proponents have asked for proof that gay marriages will somehow harm straight marriages.  The proof has finally been discovered: if your community starts marrying gays, <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/news?tmpl=story&#038;u=\/ap\/20041220\/ap_on_re_us\/gay_marriage_social_security_3\" target=\"_blank\">the feds will stop recognizing <em>all <\/em>marriages there<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">The Social Security Administration is rejecting marriage documents issued for heterosexual couples in four communities that performed weddings for gay couples earlier this year.<\/p>\n<p>The agency is rejecting all marriage certificates issued in New Paltz, N.Y., after Feb. 27, when the town&#8217;s mayor began marrying gay couples, according to town officials.  Certificates issued during the brief periods when Asbury Park, N.J., Multnomah County, Ore., and Sandoval County, N.M., recognized gay marriages are also being rejected.<\/p>\n<p>Susie Kilpatrick, 30, of New Paltz, said the local Social Security office told her that no marriage documents issued after Feb. 27 could be used to establish identity because of the gay marriages that took place there earlier this year. About 125 heterosexual couples have been married since then.<\/p>\n<p>See?  If gays are allowed to marry, it will end marriage as we know it!  The Social Security Administration says so!<\/p>\n<p>We now return to our regularly scheduled surreality.<\/p>\n<p><small>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/stupidevilbastard.com\/index\/seb\/comments\/the_verdict_is_in_gay_marriage_endangers_straight_couples_sacred_unions\/\" target=\"_blank\">SEB<\/a>)<\/small> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gay marriage proponents have asked for proof that gay marriages will somehow harm straight marriages. The proof has finally been discovered: if your community starts marrying gays, the feds will&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[25,718,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6839","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gay-stuff","category-marriage-equality","category-zt-pc"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":10358,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/02\/07\/the_logical_conclusion.html","url_meta":{"origin":6839,"position":0},"title":"The logical conclusion","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 7-Feb-07 8:25am","format":false,"excerpt":"Last year, the Wasington State Supreme Court ruled against gay marriages, ruling (reluctantly) in Andersen v. 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