{"id":6888,"date":"2004-12-09T14:28:42","date_gmt":"2004-12-09T21:28:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/12\/09\/take-ten.html"},"modified":"2004-12-09T14:28:42","modified_gmt":"2004-12-09T21:28:42","slug":"take_ten","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/12\/09\/take_ten.html","title":{"rendered":"Take Ten"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/apps\/news?pid=10000103&#038;sid=aVq7CjVw_3Zc&#038;refer=us\" target=\"_blank\">Swell<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">The Bush administration, saying that religion &#8220;has played a defining role&#8221; in the nation&#8217;s history, urged the U.S. Supreme Court to permit Ten Commandments displays in courthouses.  The Justice Department today filed a brief supporting two Kentucky counties accused of violating the constitutional ban on government establishment of religion by posting framed copies of the Ten Commandments. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Official acknowledgement and recognition of the Ten Commandments&#8217; influence on American legal history comport with the Establishment Clause,&#8221; the administration argued in a brief filed with the court in Washington.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve debated before how much actual influence the Ten Commandments has had on American legal history (not nearly as much, I think, as folk assert), and the degree to which the Ten Commandments are religious laws, not civil ones, but I would be willing to accept public displays of the Decalogue to that end &#8230; if other such foundational documents &#8212; including bits from Hammurabi, from the Roman codes, etc. &#8212; were similarly displayed.<\/p>\n<p>If you don&#8217;t do that, then you&#8217;re celebrating <em>religious <\/em>history, not <em>legal <\/em>history.  And that&#8217;s probably not proper for government sites, unless you&#8217;re going to allow equal time for alternative views.<\/p>\n<p>That seems pretty simple and straightforward to me.<\/p>\n<p><small>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gamersnook.com\/blog\/archives\/002905.html#002905\" target=\"_blank\">Scott<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Swell. The Bush administration, saying that religion &#8220;has played a defining role&#8221; in the nation&#8217;s history, urged the U.S. Supreme Court to permit Ten Commandments displays in courthouses. The Justice&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[9,27,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6888","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics-law","category-religion","category-zt-pc"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1274,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/02\/03\/dont_know_much.html","url_meta":{"origin":6888,"position":0},"title":"Don&#8217;t know much about history","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 3-Feb-02 10:30am","format":false,"excerpt":"Yet another state bill going through another state legislature to hang the Ten Commandments in every classroom. This one, which has cleared a Senate committee in South Carolina, at least...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Politics &amp; Law&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Politics &amp; Law","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/politics-law"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":7187,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/10\/12\/the_big_nine_ta.html","url_meta":{"origin":6888,"position":1},"title":"The Big Nine take on the Big Ten","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 12-Oct-04 2:47pm","format":false,"excerpt":"The Supreme Court has agreed to take on a couple of \"state display of the Ten Commandments\" cases. Well, that'll guarantee some discussion topics in the blogosphere once the election...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;ZT &amp; PC&quot;","block_context":{"text":"ZT &amp; PC","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/zt-pc"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":32844,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/03\/21\/oh-look-the-ten-commandments-thing-is-back-again.html","url_meta":{"origin":6888,"position":2},"title":"Oh, look, the Ten Commandments thing is back again","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 21-Mar-13 10:12am","format":false,"excerpt":"Once more, with feeling ...No, the Decalogue is not the \"foundation\" of US law. \u00a0I mean, yes, most US cities and states have\u00a0prohibitions on killing and theft -- but so do the laws of cities and states in China and India, which have nothing to do with the Ten Commandments.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":8811,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/04\/11\/hang_ten_comman.html","url_meta":{"origin":6888,"position":3},"title":"Hang Ten (Commandments)","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 11-Apr-06 5:43pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Haven't we already gone through this again and again and again and again? Evidently we have to go through another \"again.\" At a ceremonial signing today of a bill that...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Politics &amp; Law&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Politics &amp; Law","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/politics-law"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":12144,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/11\/05\/timing_is_everything_11.html","url_meta":{"origin":6888,"position":4},"title":"Timing is everything","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 5-Nov-07 10:30pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Devout devotion?\u00a0\u00a0Humble expression of historical heritage?\u00a0 Or bald-faced vote pandering? Gov. 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A chorus of demonstrators joined an irate man in screaming \"Put it back!\" Wednesday morning...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Religion&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Religion","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/religion"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6888","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6888"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6888\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6888"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6888"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6888"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}