{"id":6950,"date":"2004-11-23T19:48:03","date_gmt":"2004-11-24T02:48:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/11\/23\/revisionism.html"},"modified":"2004-11-23T19:48:03","modified_gmt":"2004-11-24T02:48:03","slug":"revisionism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/11\/23\/revisionism.html","title":{"rendered":"Revisionism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;d certainly always heard it was pretty certain Alexander the Great was, if not gay, then <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotopress.com\/titles\/golden_vine\/hephaestion.html\" target=\"_blank\">bisexual<\/a>, at least in keeping with Greek cultural values of the time.  Evidently, though, that this will be part of Oliver Stone&#8217;s upcoming <em><a href=\"http:\/\/alexanderthemovie.warnerbros.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Alexander the Great<\/a> <\/em>movie has some Greeks <a href=\"http:\/\/cnn.netscape.cnn.com\/ns\/news\/story.jsp?id=2004111912090002191970&#038;dt=20041119120900&#038;w=RTR&#038;coview=\" target=\"_blank\">up in arms<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">A group of Greek lawyers are threatening to sue Warner Bros film studios and Oliver Stone, director of the widely anticipated film &#8220;Alexander,&#8221; for suggesting Alexander the Great was bisexual.<\/p>\n<p>The lawyers have already sent an extrajudicial note to the studio and director demanding they include a reference in the title credits saying his movie is a fictional tale and not based on official documents of the life of the Macedonian ruler.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We are not saying that we are against gays but we are saying that the production company should make it clear to the audience that this film is pure fiction and not a true depiction of the life of Alexander,&#8221; Yannis Varnakos, who spearheads the campaign by 25 lawyers, told Reuters on Friday.<\/p>\n<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, it&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2004\/11\/20\/movies\/MoviesFeatures\/20alex.html?oref=login&#038;adxnnl=1&#038;oref=login&#038;adxnnlx=1100963181-4FGOLhuSb5Rh3JkswlSdhA&#038;pagewanted=all&#038;position=\" target=\"_blank\">not just a nationalist thing<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Some are already taking aim at Mr. Stone&#8217;s movie. &#8220;There will be people who see Alexander the Great&#8217;s bisexuality as applauding that lifestyle, and unfortunately it will lead some young boys, young men down a path that I think they&#8217;ll regret someday,&#8221; said Bob Waliszewski, a film critic with Focus on the Family, a Christian group.<\/p>\n<p>Riiiiiiight.  I expect to see a huge number of folks take up homosexuality after watching Alexander the Great.  Just like so many people became assassins after seeing one of Colin Farrell&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0287978\/\" target=\"_blank\">earlier roles<\/a> &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><small>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ghostofaflea.com\/archives\/003926.html\" target=\"_blank\">GoaF<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;d certainly always heard it was pretty certain Alexander the Great was, if not gay, then bisexual, at least in keeping with Greek cultural values of the time. 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