{"id":7070,"date":"2004-11-03T10:40:27","date_gmt":"2004-11-03T17:40:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2004\/11\/03\/some-solace.html"},"modified":"2014-11-06T07:44:36","modified_gmt":"2014-11-06T14:44:36","slug":"some_solace","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/11\/03\/some_solace.html","title":{"rendered":"Some solace"},"content":{"rendered":"

Les<\/a> finds a few glimmers of silver lining in the election results. To paraphrase:<\/p>\n

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  1. We’ve survived bad presidents before, and the win (and gains in Congress) may give enough rope for Bush and the Far Right to hang themselves with.<\/em> I hope so. I’m a bit worried over some GOP moves to exclude certain laws from federal court oversight — a horrid, horrid precedent, even if constitutional.\n
  2. High voter turnouts were good news.<\/em> Amen. Better by far for people to be engaged than apathetic. You can fool a large body of voters for a while. But you can get things by a disinterested populace a lot longer.<\/p>\n
  3. The election was still close.<\/em> Agreed. Add in the noise vs. signal issue (what really <\/em>drove voters, and how persistent are those issues going into 2006 and 2008), and it’s clearly not the end of the world. A McGovern or Dukakis debacle — that would have been a lot more profound. Indeed, that Kerry managed to get as close as he did only three years after 9-11 is remarkable on the face of it.<\/p>\n
  4. The banning of gay marriage in so many state constitutions is still better than a federal amendment for the same.<\/em> That’s a reach, perhaps. Nor do I think Les’ contention that states that okay gay marriage (or, more likely, civil unions) are going to economically benefit in such a way as to get other states to change their ways (I doubt the economic effect will be that profound, and it’s a very different sort of issue to put at cross-purposes). This remains, to me, the most depressing outcome of the election.<\/ol>\n

    Anyway, a good post, worth reading.<\/p>\n

    UPDATE<\/strong>: And another silver lining, from the comments — the defeat of Keyes (already mentioned here) in conjunction with the election of Obama.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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To paraphrase: We’ve survived bad presidents before, and the win (and gains in Congress) may give enough rope…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[52,25,718],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7070","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-elections-2004","category-gay-stuff","category-marriage-equality"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":28137,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/05\/the-rude-and-horrid-feast.html","url_meta":{"origin":7070,"position":0},"title":"The Rude and Horrid Feast","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 5-Jun-12 12:37pm","format":false,"excerpt":"This one's for Margie, and Kay, and my folks, and Margie's folks, and all those other raw tomato lovers out there. 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