{"id":7380,"date":"2005-03-17T09:32:27","date_gmt":"2005-03-17T16:32:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2005\/03\/17\/sauce-for-the-geese-sauce-for-the-ganders.html"},"modified":"2005-03-17T09:32:27","modified_gmt":"2005-03-17T16:32:27","slug":"sauce_for_the_g","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2005\/03\/17\/sauce_for_the_g.html","title":{"rendered":"Sauce for the geese, sauce for the ganders"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The House of Bishops of the Episcopal Church has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/story\/162\/story_16258_1.html\" target=\"_blank\">decided<\/a>, faced with insistence from the Anglican Communion that it not appoint any new gay bishops, to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2005\/03\/17\/national\/17bishop.html?ex=1268715600&#038;en=6d7536757a7f718f&#038;ei=5088&#038;partner=rssnyt\" target=\"_blank\">not appoint <em>any <\/em>bishops for at least a year<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Interesting.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s sort of a passive-aggressive response &#8212; it accedes to the demand, but does it in a way that is clearly temporary, and that makes it clear that the underlying demand is not something they&#8217;re willing to go along with.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">Singling out gay bishops would have &#8220;placed an unfair burden on a group of people in this church, which would be the gay and lesbian contingent,&#8221; said Bishop Chane, who holds liberal views on homosexuality. &#8220;We believed that needed to be a burden shared by all of us in the church.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;] Six Episcopal dioceses scheduled to elect new bishops in the next year will be affected by the moratorium on new bishops, said the Rev. Jan Nunley, a church spokeswoman. They are the Dioceses of Eastern Michigan, South Carolina, Southern Ohio, Southwest Florida, Tennessee and West Texas. Episcopal Church dioceses elect their own bishops, but the selections require approval by broader church bodies.<\/p>\n<p>And it puts the whole subject back in front of the triennial General Convention in 2006.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\"> The 140 bishops at the meeting, in Navasota, northwest of Houston, also pledged not to bless the union of same-sex couples for a year, or to authorize &#8220;public rites&#8221; for such ceremonies.<\/p>\n<p>But the wording of their statement, which they called a &#8220;covenant&#8221; and issued late Tuesday, left open the possibility that priests who believed that blessing same-sex unions was &#8220;pastoral care&#8221; could still do so.<\/p>\n<p>Depending on where you stand on the issues, you can see all this as being conciliatory, defiant, unresponsive, or passing the buck.  But it&#8217;s not clear how they could have done much else without seriously torquing off one or the other side in this matter; this way, at least, they only (hopefully) mildly torque off both sides.<\/p>\n<p>Rough(er) times ahead, I suspect.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The House of Bishops of the Episcopal Church has decided, faced with insistence from the Anglican Communion that it not appoint any new gay bishops, to not appoint any bishops&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[25,27],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7380","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gay-stuff","category-religion"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":11417,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/09\/01\/another_day_another_conse.html","url_meta":{"origin":7380,"position":0},"title":"Another day, another conservative African province ordains schismatic anti-gay bishops","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 1-Sep-07 9:47pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Now Kenya has joined Nigeria, Rwanda, et al. in ordaining\u00a0missionary bishops to tend to poor American Episcopalians Anglicans\u00a0lacking any pastoral care over the issue of gays in the ministry.\u00a0...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Religion&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Religion","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/religion"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/episcshield_15_188.gif?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":11158,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/03\/28\/the_other_ecclesiastical.html","url_meta":{"origin":7380,"position":1},"title":"The other ecclesiastical shoe drops","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 28-Mar-07 6:26pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Bp. 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