{"id":7542,"date":"2005-02-08T10:30:02","date_gmt":"2005-02-08T17:30:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2005\/02\/08\/whither-wither-trackback.html"},"modified":"2005-02-08T10:30:02","modified_gmt":"2005-02-08T17:30:02","slug":"whither_wither","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2005\/02\/08\/whither_wither.html","title":{"rendered":"Whither (wither?) Trackback?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A few years back, MovableType introduced Trackbacks.  The idea is that if you (from a Trackback-enabled blogging package) included a link a post to a page which had Trackback code, that page would get a pinged database entry indicating the link and a snippet of it.  Thus, you could see if someone linked to your posts.  Sweet.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, it&#8217;s something that link spammers can exploit (by sending bogus pings).  Though various tools can control that to some extent (MT-Blacklist, for example), it&#8217;s not as easily controlled as spam on comments, due to how the Trackback system is set up (in MT, at least).  And so, increasingly, I&#8217;ve seen people dropping Trackbacks from their blogs, and using (if they use anything) other, less hackable (and less powerful, IMO) solutions, as <a href=\"http:\/\/stupidevilbastard.com\/index\/seb\/comments\/will_spam_kill_trackbacks_for_good\/\" target=\"_blank\">Les<\/a> enumerates.<\/p>\n<p>Which is a shame, because TBs are good stuff, both as a convenient way to see who&#8217;s commented on something you said (and removing the need for &#8220;I had comments on this, but they were too long, so I put them on my blog here&#8221; comments) and for internal cross-references (as I&#8217;ve started doing).  I don&#8217;t intend to drop them any time soon &#8212; the link spam here has been pretty much under control of late, and I certainly hate to let the SOBs win.<\/p>\n<p>That said, I think I am going to add a Technorati (&#8220;TR&#8221;) link in the comment footer of each post, so that it&#8217;s easy to see if there has been commentary on it (which, alas, has to be pulled, rather than getting pushed).  That link, in MT, would seem to be:<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">http:\/\/www.technorati.com\/cosmos\/search.html?rank=&amp;sub=mtcosmos&amp;url=&lt;$MTEntryLink$&gt;<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t really &#8220;get&#8221; the Tagback proposal, though (<a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/bbintroducingtagback\" rel=\"tag\">bbintroducingtagback<\/a>), and aren&#8217;t likely to do anything with it for a while until I do.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m sorry to see TBs going away, because &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>[continued a few hours later, once it&#8217;s pointed out that I ended mid-sentence]<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; I think, conceptually, they&#8217;re pretty keen.  Damned spammers &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few years back, MovableType introduced Trackbacks. 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