{"id":77,"date":"2003-06-20T11:13:19","date_gmt":"2003-06-20T16:13:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=77"},"modified":"2014-11-05T15:24:24","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T22:24:24","slug":"unintended_cons-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/06\/20\/unintended_cons-2.html","title":{"rendered":"Unintended Consequences"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Some interesting observations (via some linked posts) on an unintended &#8212; but positive &#8212; aspect of gay marriage:  <a title=\"Instapundit.com:\" href=\"http:\/\/www.instapundit.com\/archives\/010179.php#010179\">rationalizing custody laws<\/a>.  After all, if gender is removed from the &#8220;roles&#8221; in marriages, then (when the inevitable divorces come along), biases of favoring one gender over another in custody battles (and spousal support) are going to be difficult to maintain. <\/p>\n<p>And, as an afterthought, Glenn adds (emphasis mine):<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">Personally, I&#8217;m in favor of legalizing gay marriage. <b>I don&#8217;t see that gay marriage diminishes marriage, any more than the many Jerry-Springer types who are allowed to get married now diminish marriage.<\/b> I have gay friends who are, for all practical purposes, married. I don&#8217;t see why barring them from going to the courthouse benefits anyone.<br \/>\nThere are some conservatives who say that the advocacy of gay marriage is part of a campaign by some liberals to undermine marriage in general &#8212; and I think there probably are some people on the left (or in whatever la-la land the MacKinnon \/ Dworkin types and their near-kin inhabit) who think that it will do that. But I rather suspect it will have the opposite effect. <b>Let gays get married and they&#8217;ll become a bulwark of the bourgeoisie.<\/b> That&#8217;s my prediction, anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Makes sense to me.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some interesting observations (via some linked posts) on an unintended &#8212; but positive &#8212; aspect of gay marriage: rationalizing custody laws. After all, if gender is removed from the &#8220;roles&#8221;&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[25,718],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-77","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gay-stuff","category-marriage-equality"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":51514,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/06\/19\/on-the-choosing-of-appropriate-terms-around-marriage-equality.html","url_meta":{"origin":77,"position":0},"title":"On the choosing of appropriate terms around &quot;marriage equality&quot;","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 19-Jun-15 10:41am","format":false,"excerpt":"It's not just a matter of so-called political correctness, but of conveying, accurately, what one means. 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