{"id":786,"date":"2001-11-14T17:00:43","date_gmt":"2001-11-14T22:00:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=786"},"modified":"2001-11-14T17:00:43","modified_gmt":"2001-11-14T22:00:43","slug":"that_executive","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2001\/11\/14\/that_executive.html","title":{"rendered":"That Executive Order thang"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/sections\/us\/DailyNews\/bush_terror_order011113.html\">full text<\/a> of the EO issued by Bush yesterday regarding military trials for terrorists.  The main point is that it applies (as, Constitutionally, it must) to non-citizens.  Which, I suppose, makes it okay &#8212; and not all that radical a move.<\/p>\n<p>Some other coverage of this in the <i>Washington Post<\/i>, and some analysis here on <a href=\"http:\/\/writ.news.findlaw.com\/dean\/20010928.html\">why it&#8217;s not that horrible a thing<\/a>.  Quoting a US Supreme Court judgment in 1942 (when Roosevelt did the same thing to some Nazi spies):<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">The \u2026 enemy combatant who without uniform comes secretly through the lines for the purpose of waging war by destruction of life or property, are familiar examples of belligerents who are generally deemed \u2026 to be offenders against the law of war subject to trial and punishment by military tribunals.<\/p>\n<p>Hmmmm.<\/p>\n<p><small>(Also via <a href=\"http:\/\/instapundit.blogspot.com\/2001_11_11_instapundit_archive.html#7113550\">InstaPundit<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/denbeste.nu\/entries\/00001332.shtml\">USS Clueless<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The full text of the EO issued by Bush yesterday regarding military trials for terrorists. The main point is that it applies (as, Constitutionally, it must) to non-citizens. 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