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I’m not sure that I would have expected anything else, but it’s still deeply irksome that Bush is such a dolt about this<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Transcript of the roundtable interview of President Bush by reporters from Texas newspapers on August 1, 2005, in the Roosevelt Room.<\/em><\/p>\n

Question: I wanted to ask you about the — what seems to be a growing debate over evolution versus intelligent design. What are your personal views on that, and do you think both should be taught in public schools?<\/strong><\/p>\n

THE PRESIDENT: I think — as I said, harking back to my days as my governor — both you and Herman are doing a fine job of dragging me back to the past. (Laughter.) Then, I said that, first of all, that decision should be made to local school districts, but I felt like both sides ought to be properly taught.<\/p>\n

Both sides should be properly taught?<\/strong><\/p>\n

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, people — so people can understand what the debate is about.<\/p>\n

So the answer accepts the validity of intelligent design as an alternative to evolution?<\/strong><\/p>\n

THE PRESIDENT: I think that part of education is to expose people to different schools of thought, and I’m not suggesting — you’re asking me whether or not people ought to be exposed to different ideas, and the answer is yes.<\/p>\n

Bush sort of waffles around on it, but … damn, Mr. President, the ideas <\/em>I expect to be taught in science <\/em>class are, well, science, <\/em>not mystical mumbo-jumbo about how life is too complex for us to understand it, thus there must be someone smarter behind it all<\/em> (Prometheus<\/a>, natch) and, by the way, all that evil-ution claptrap is unAmerican and immoral.<\/em><\/p>\n

That’s not science, Mr. President. That’s sitting around in caves, scared by the thunder, and deciding it must be the giants playing nine pins or something.<\/p>\n

For shame. Somewhere in Beijing, the Minister of Long-Term Educational Planning and Taking Over the World’s Economy through Scientific Training is cackling maniacally.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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