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The manufacturer refuses to show the code, which means they cannot prove the machines work, and so <a href=\"http:\/\/tampatrib.com\/floridametronews\/MGBUBJ5QK9E.html\" target=\"_blank\">the tests are being thrown out<\/a>.  <\/p>\n<p>Now if only we could get some judges to rule the same on voting machines &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Not that I have any truck with drunk drivers, by any means.  But without being able to prove that a system works, either through rigorous, indepedent testing, or, more importantly, analysis of the source code, the room for abuse (or injustice) strikes me as too great.<\/p>\n<p><small>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boingboing.net\/2005\/06\/06\/judges_toss_out_duis.html\" target=\"_blank\">BoingBoing<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Evidently, DUI defendants in Seminole Co., Florida, who challenge their Breathlyzer tests in court based on their ability to examine the source code of the machines are getting their cases&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[20,9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8050","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hi-tech","category-politics-law"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":129052,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/12\/03\/oh-look-another-problem-with-the-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement.html","url_meta":{"origin":8050,"position":0},"title":"Oh, look, another problem with the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 3-Dec-15 10:17pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Number 47 in a series of Lotshttps:\/\/www.eff.org\/deeplinks\/2015\/12\/tpp-threatens-security-and-safety-locking-down-us-policy-source-code-auditExecutive Summary: Source code to embedded software cannot, under the TPP, be legally compelled to be revealed, because, well, that would be bad. 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