{"id":8158,"date":"2005-05-05T15:45:59","date_gmt":"2005-05-05T22:45:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2005\/05\/05\/maybe-we-should-just-stone-them-instead.html"},"modified":"2005-05-05T15:45:59","modified_gmt":"2005-05-05T22:45:59","slug":"maybe_we_should","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2005\/05\/05\/maybe_we_should.html","title":{"rendered":"Maybe we should just stone them instead"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/channel\/sex\/mg18624954.500\" target=\"_blank\">Can these people get any crazier?<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">Deaths from cervical cancer could jump fourfold to a million a year by 2050, mainly in developing countries. This could be prevented by soon-to-be-approved vaccines against the virus that causes most cases of cervical cancer &#8211; but there are signs that opposition to the vaccines might lead to many preventable deaths.<\/p>\n<p>The trouble is that the human papilloma virus (HPV) is sexually transmitted. So to prevent infection, girls will have to be vaccinated before they become sexually active, which could be a problem in many countries.<\/p>\n<p>In the US, for instance, religious groups are gearing up to oppose vaccination, despite a survey showing 80 per cent of parents favour vaccinating their daughters. &#8220;Abstinence is the best way to prevent HPV,&#8221; says Bridget Maher of the Family Research Council, a leading Christian lobby group that has made much of the fact that, because it can spread by skin contact, condoms are not as effective against HPV as they are against other viruses such as HIV.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Giving the HPV vaccine to young women could be potentially harmful, because they may see it as a licence to engage in premarital sex,&#8221; Maher claims, though it is arguable how many young women have even heard of the virus.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s right.  If we start vaccinating people against HPV (which studies show has infected &#8220;half of all sexually active women between 18 and 22 in the US&#8221;), it&#8217;s a Bad Thing because it might encourage them to have sex outside of marriage.  Rather than risk that, we&#8217;ll just condemn some of them to death by cervical cancer.  It&#8217;s okay, because they&#8217;re going to be writhing in Hell for all eternity for their fornication, anyway.  Unless they were virgins at marriage and got it from their promiscuous husbands.  In which case they&#8217;ll be gathered up into Jesus&#8217; bosom as virtuous martyrs after they die.<\/p>\n<p>Crikey.<\/p>\n<p><small>(Via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stcynic.com\/blog\/archives\/2005\/05\/putting_moral_p.php\" target=\"_blank\">Dispatches<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Can these people get any crazier? Deaths from cervical cancer could jump fourfold to a million a year by 2050, mainly in developing countries. This could be prevented by soon-to-be-approved&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8158","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-zt-pc"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":30922,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/10\/29\/hpv-vaccine-doesnt-promote-promiscuity.html","url_meta":{"origin":8158,"position":0},"title":"HPV vaccine doesn&#39;t promote promiscuity","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 29-Oct-12 2:26pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Which makes sense, since I don't think most teens are most concerned about HPV and cervical cancer when they make decisions about sex.I'd like to think this would increase vaccination rates ... but I sadly suspect it won't. 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Everyone remembers the pre-existing\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":28562,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/07\/13\/herd-immunity-and-hpv-its-a-good-thing.html","url_meta":{"origin":8158,"position":3},"title":"Herd immunity and HPV &#8230; it&#39;s a good thing","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 13-Jul-12 6:22am","format":false,"excerpt":"Infection rates appear to be down even among girls who haven't been vaccinated.Reshared post from +Jim Feig Embedded Link Just 6 years later, HPV vaccine may already provide herd immunity Infection rates of the viruses it targets are dropping among the unvaccinated. 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