{"id":9262,"date":"2006-07-31T09:14:44","date_gmt":"2006-07-31T16:14:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2006\/07\/31\/shocked-shocked-i-tell-you-3.html"},"modified":"2006-07-31T09:14:44","modified_gmt":"2006-07-31T16:14:44","slug":"shocked_shocked","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/07\/31\/shocked_shocked.html","title":{"rendered":"Shocked!  Shocked, I tell you!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"img-shadow-right\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Breasts!  Babies!  The horror!\" height=\"420\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/breastcover121.jpg\" width=\"306\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p>Babies! Breasts! The horror!<\/p>\n<p>I do hope that none of my readers here are Gravely Offended by the magazine coverto the right. I mean &#8212; it&#8217;s a baby, right? And a breast. And a baby latched onto a breast. Which is a natural and non-sexual and good thing, right? And it&#8217;s on a magazine about babies, and illustrating an article about mothers and breastfeeding, right? And, heck, as far as you can actually tell from the picture, it&#8217;s really just an elbow, right?<\/p>\n<p>So why are folks going so &#8230;<a href=\"http:\/\/sfgate.com\/cgi-bin\/article.cgi?file=\/news\/archive\/2006\/07\/27\/entertainment\/e134753D90.DTL\" target=\"_blank\">crazily offended over this cover<\/a>?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I was SHOCKED to see a giant breast on the cover of your magazine,&#8221; one person wrote. &#8220;I immediately turned the magazine face down,&#8221; wrote another. &#8220;Gross,&#8221; said a third.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m &#8230; amazed.<\/p>\n<p>Shocked to see a &#8220;giant breast&#8221; on a cover? It&#8217;s a magazine about babies! Turning the magazine face-down? Why? What are you seeing here that&#8217;s so offensive? Gross? What&#8217;s gross about it?<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Babytalk is a free magazine whose readership is overwhelmingly mothers of babies. Yet in a poll of more than 4,000 readers, a quarter of responses to the cover were negative, calling the photo &#8212; a baby and part of a woman&#8217;s breast, in profile &#8212; inappropriate.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Well I&#8217;m glad it was only a quarter. But why was it inappropriate?<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>One mother who didn&#8217;t like the cover explains she was concerned about her 13-year-old son seeing it. &#8220;I shredded it,&#8221; said Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas, in a telephone interview. &#8220;A breast is a breast &#8212; it&#8217;s a sexual thing. He didn&#8217;t need to see that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Um &#8230; a breast is a mammary gland, designed primarily for the feeding of babies. And in this context, it&#8217;s clearly being used for this purpose. Breasts are <em>secondarily<\/em> a &#8220;sexual thing.&#8221; And maybe your 13-year-old does in fact need to see this picture just to understand that.<\/p>\n<p>And, as someone who&#8217;s both male and has had a healthy obsession over breasts for quite a number of years, I can guarantee that this is one of the least sexual pictures of breasts I&#8217;ve seen &#8212; and trivially sexual compared to any number of pictures of breast visible in any mainstream magazine. Really.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;Gross, I am sick of seeing a baby attached to a boob,&#8221; wrote Lauren, a mother of a 4-month-old.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>That particular comment just makes me shake my head. <\/p>\n<p>Now this all ties into the issue of public breast feeding, though, to my mind, a bit tangentially &#8212; there&#8217;s a difference between what you see on a magazine cover and what you see in a restaurant, grocery store, or city park, regardless of the subject. To me, at least, there&#8217;s a distinction between photos and reality, between &#8220;live and Memorex.&#8221; So I can understand varying levels of comfort\/discomfort with public breast feeding &#8212; I believe it can and should be legal, but that there are politeness and social<br \/>\ninteraction issues (in both directions) that we&#8217;re all working through.<\/p>\n<p>But as much as I am, as Margie says, a &#8220;boob man,&#8221;it&#8217;s clear that the American obsession (positive and negative) about breasts is out of hand (so to speak) when a magazine photo like this provokes such viscerally negative responses.<\/p>\n<p><small><\/p>\n<p>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/stupidevilbastard.com\/index\/seb\/comments\/people_get_all_upset_over_a_semi_naked_breast_being_used_as_intended\/\" target=\"_blank\">Les<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Babies! Breasts! The horror! I do hope that none of my readers here are Gravely Offended by the magazine coverto the right. 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