{"id":9430,"date":"2006-07-07T21:55:50","date_gmt":"2006-07-08T04:55:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2006\/07\/07\/abc-vs-usa.html"},"modified":"2006-07-07T21:55:50","modified_gmt":"2006-07-08T04:55:50","slug":"abc_vs_usa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/07\/07\/abc_vs_usa.html","title":{"rendered":"ABC vs. USA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Because, of course, <a href=\"http:\/\/publications.mediapost.com\/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&amp;art_aid=45264\" target=\"_blank\">skipping commercials is tantamount to theft<\/a>. <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>ABC HAS HELD DISCUSSIONS ON the use of technology that would disable the fast-forward button on DVRs, according to ABC President of Advertising Sales Mike Shaw, with the primary goal to allow TV commercials to run as intended.&nbsp; &#8220;I would love it if the MSOs, during the deployment of the new DVRs they&#8217;re putting out there, would disable the fast-forward [button],&#8221; Shaw said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I would love it if everyone stopped watching ABC shows.&nbsp; That&#8217;s what happens when you try to screw your clients. <\/p>\n<p>Except, of course, the viewers are not&nbsp;the&nbsp;clients.&nbsp; We don&#8217;t pay for commercial TV.&nbsp;&nbsp;Advertisers to.&nbsp; We&#8217;re just fodder for the advertising mill.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p><span class=\"articleText\"> <\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\"articleText\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"articleText\">Shaw also threw cold water on the idea that neutering the fast-forward option would result in a consumer backlash. He suggested that consumers prefer DVRs for their ability to facilitate on-demand viewing and not ad-zapping&#8211;and consumers might warm to the idea that anytime viewing brings with it a tradeoff in the form of unavoidable commercial viewing. <\/p>\n<p class=\"articleText\">&#8220;I&#8217;m not so sure that the whole issue really is one of commercial avoidance,&#8221; Shaw said. &#8220;It really is a matter of convenience&#8211;so you don&#8217;t miss your favorite show. And quite frankly, we&#8217;re just training a new generation of viewers to skip commercials because they can. I&#8217;m not sure that the driving reason to get a DVR in the first place is just to skip commercials. I don&#8217;t fundamentally believe that. People can understand in order to have convenience and on-demand (options), that you can&#8217;t skip commercials.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"articleText\"><em>La-la-la-la-la &#8230; I can&#8217;t hear you &#8230; la-la-la-la-la &#8230; <\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"articleText\">Has Mr Shaw actually <em>spoken<\/em> to, oh, <em>anyone<\/em> about this?&nbsp;&nbsp;Or is it just his devout hope that this crazy opinion is reality? <\/p>\n<p class=\"articleText\">People hate commercials.&nbsp; They really do. The only blessing of commercials &#8212; with the exception of the occasional amusing one &#8212; is that they give you time to run to the kitchen or the bathroom.&nbsp; <em>If people didn&#8217;t want to skip commercials, they wouldn&#8217;t do so<\/em>, right?&nbsp; To make up reasons otherwise is to live in a fantasy land.<\/p>\n<p class=\"articleText\">DVRs are popular for two reasons, based on all polls that have been taken: <\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n<div class=\"articleText\">They allow relatively painless time-shifting of TV shows to view.\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"articleText\">They let you skip through commercials.\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>That ABC is conspiring (openly) to get rid of the latter just shows the contempt that they hold their viewers in.&nbsp; <em>You will watch our commercials, whether you like it or not.&nbsp; If we could, we&#8217;d shackle you to the chair while they were playing.<\/em> <\/p>\n<p>Now, as much as it&nbsp;galls me, I will confess that&nbsp;Shaw has a point:&nbsp; commercial networks get their money from ads, and advertisers pay money for folks viewing those ads.&nbsp; So if&nbsp;fewer people are viewing the ads, the advertisers will spend less and the networks will make less money.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;But a cardinal rule of commerce is you don&#8217;t make the customer settle for less than what they are getting.&nbsp; That&#8217;s part of Shaw&#8217;s acting now, while DVRs have only a 10% penetration, but even now it&#8217;s too late.&nbsp; People are used to (or are used to hearing) about how DVRs let you FF through ads.&nbsp; Take that away &#8212; be seen as the folks conspiring to take it away &#8212; and you become the first up against the wall come the revolution.<\/p>\n<p>I could see maybe doing something to digitally flag commercial breaks, so that you couldn&#8217;t FF once you were within two seconds of a commercial starting or during it.&nbsp; That would let folks FF across shows to the point they want to see or show or share or look up, but would protect those precious commercial breaks.&nbsp; But that&#8217;s a last resort.&nbsp; How about thinking outside the box?<\/p>\n<p>What are the alternatives to commercial breaks that people <em>want<\/em> to skip over (if they didn&#8217;t want to, after all, it wouldn&#8217;t be a problem)?&nbsp; Maybe make ads more interesting (incent people to watch them) or briefer (disincent them to bother FFing).&nbsp; Product placement in shows is another option, which is aesthetically annoying but less so than explicit ads.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>Hell, like I commented over on Les&#8217;s site, double my cable bill and send the monthly difference straight to the networks (esp. the networks I watch).&nbsp; I&#8217;d pay more to see fewer commercials. 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