{"id":9473,"date":"2006-06-29T08:34:25","date_gmt":"2006-06-29T15:34:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2006\/06\/29\/the-limits-of-unity-part-ii.html"},"modified":"2006-06-29T08:34:25","modified_gmt":"2006-06-29T15:34:25","slug":"the_limits_of_u","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/06\/29\/the_limits_of_u.html","title":{"rendered":"The limits of unity, Part II"},"content":{"rendered":"

\nEvidently, the idea of a several-year process<\/a> of developing an Anglican Communion covenant and membership structure, though applauded yesterday by Anglican conservatives inside and outside of the Episcopal Church, is far too slow a process for those same conservatives.  Thus, also yesterday …\n<\/p>\n

    \n
  1. \nThe Church of Nigeria has elected a US “bishop” for a “missionary” initiative within the US and Canada (under CANA, previously known as the Convocation of Anglican Nigerians in America, but now called Convocation of Anglican Churches in North America).\n<\/li>\n
  2. \nSeveral conservative dioceses (or their bishops) have appealed to the Archbishop of Canterbury for “Alternative Primatial Oversight” (amusingly called “ALPO”), i.e., to be overseen by a primate other than the Episcopal Presiding Bishop.  Not that the PB actually has any control over the dioceses, but it’s the thought that counts.<\/span>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    \nThis gets a lot more into church politics than most folks are likely interested in, but, frankly — fine.  My thought is, let’s acknowledge the schism and severed relationships and move on with, well, doing what Jesus had in mind (I don’t recall him, frankly, talking a lot about ecclesiastical organization, except for some not-very-complementary comments about whited sepulchres and the like).\n<\/p>\n

    \nSo, anyone who want to leave — do so.  But do so openly and honestly, and leave your keys by the door (or be ready to argue out in court who owns what).  Playing games like this is unbecoming and, frankly, un-Christian.\n<\/p>\n

    \nFor more reading on the subject (rather than try and backfit the links), I recommend the Daily Episcopalian<\/a>, Fr. Jake<\/a>, Preludium<\/a>, the Episcopal
    \nNews Service<\/a>, and a whole bunch of     news links<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

    Evidently, the idea of a several-year process of developing an Anglican Communion covenant and membership structure, though applauded yesterday by Anglican conservatives inside and outside of the Episcopal Church, is far too…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[27],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9473","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-religion"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":11002,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/04\/28\/drawing_the_line.html","url_meta":{"origin":9473,"position":0},"title":"Drawing the line","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 28-Apr-07 12:36pm","format":false,"excerpt":"For all the various conservative primates in the Anglican Communion have called on the Episcopal Church to return to traditional ways, to listen to the recommendations of the Windsor...","rel":"","context":"In "Religion"","block_context":{"text":"Religion","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/religion"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/episc-shield.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":7259,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2005\/04\/13\/more_anglican_c.html","url_meta":{"origin":9473,"position":1},"title":"More Anglican Communion brinksmanship","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 13-Apr-05 3:55pm","format":false,"excerpt":"While the Anglican Communion has been rent with divisions over issues of human sexuality, and the actions of the Episcopal Church and the Church of Canada on that subject, one...","rel":"","context":"In "Religion"","block_context":{"text":"Religion","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/religion"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":11042,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/04\/19\/all_your_parish_are_belon.html","url_meta":{"origin":9473,"position":2},"title":"“All your parish are belong to us!”","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 19-Apr-07 6:40am","format":false,"excerpt":"Look out! \u00a0Dave's ranting about Episcopal stuff some more! As part of the effort to secede Grace & St Stephen's from the Episcopal Church, Rev Armstrong has been walking...","rel":"","context":"In "Religion"","block_context":{"text":"Religion","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/religion"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/episc-shield.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":5702,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/01\/21\/schism_lite.html","url_meta":{"origin":9473,"position":3},"title":"Schism Lite","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 21-Jan-04 11:00am","format":false,"excerpt":"The American Anglican Council is a newly chartered organization of conservative dioceses within the Episcopal Church, organizing in mutual support against the actions of the General Convention and its approval...","rel":"","context":"In "Religion"","block_context":{"text":"Religion","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/religion"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":15200,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2009\/07\/14\/episcopalians-take-a-step-forward.html","url_meta":{"origin":9473,"position":4},"title":"Episcopalians take a step forward","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 14-Jul-09 7:58am","format":false,"excerpt":"While it all sounds like a bunch of legislative hoo-hah at a boring church synod, the actions yesterday by the Episcopal Church (TEC) are a big leap forward for it, and perhaps for Christianity as a whole if we serve as an example. The House of Deputies of the Episcopal\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "Episcopal Church"","block_context":{"text":"Episcopal Church","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/religion\/religion-episcopal-church"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/episcshield.gif?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":10309,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/02\/20\/tanzania_wraps_up.html","url_meta":{"origin":9473,"position":5},"title":"Tanzania wraps up","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 20-Feb-07 10:18am","format":false,"excerpt":"The big Anglican Primates meeting in Tanzania wrapped up Monday. It was a bit of a mixed bag. Despite some public pissiness by a few Primates, most of the goings-on...","rel":"","context":"In "Religion"","block_context":{"text":"Religion","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/religion"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9473","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9473"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9473\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9473"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9473"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9473"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}