{"id":9660,"date":"2006-05-17T14:04:35","date_gmt":"2006-05-17T21:04:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2006\/05\/17\/gagged.html"},"modified":"2006-05-17T14:04:35","modified_gmt":"2006-05-17T21:04:35","slug":"gagged","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/05\/17\/gagged.html","title":{"rendered":"Gagged"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Not only does AT&#038;T not want to have to defend itself against civil suits regarding information it may have provided the NSA, it doesn&#8217;t want anyone to know about the case against it.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Former AT&#038;T technician Mark Klein is the key witness in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eff.org\/legal\/cases\/att\/\" target=\"_blank\">the Electronic Frontier Foundation&#8217;s class-action lawsuit against the company<\/a>, which alleges that AT&#038;T illegally cooperated in an illegal National Security Agency domestic-surveillance program.<\/p>\n<p>In this recently surfaced statement, Klein details his discovery of an alleged surveillance operation in an AT&#038;T office in San Francisco, and offers his interpretation of company documents that he believes support his case.<\/p>\n<p>For its part, AT&#038;T is asking a federal judge to keep those documents out of court, and to order the EFF to return them to the company. Here Wired News presents <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/news\/technology\/1,70908-0.html\" target=\"_blank\">Klein&#8217;s statement in its entirety, along with select pages from the AT&#038;T documents<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is the suit that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eff.org\/news\/archives\/2006_05.php#004662\" target=\"_blank\">the DoJ has asked the courts to throw out<\/a> for national security reasons.  The DoJ request is only available in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eff.org\/legal\/cases\/att\/GovMotiontoDismiss.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">redacted form<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>A judge has rejected AT&#038;T&#8217;s request, but has also told the EFF not to release the documents, either.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>On Wednesday, the judge rejected the EFF&#8217;s request that the documents provided to the organization by former AT&#038;T technician Mark Klein be unsealed in court records, and ordered EFF not to share the papers with anyone.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It appears that there is a possibility that the documents contain significant trade secrets or proprietary information belonging to AT&#038;T,&#8221; said Walker.<\/p>\n<p>But he rejected AT&#038;T&#8217;s motion asking the court to order EFF to return the documents to the company, noting, &#8220;Plaintiffs say they got the documents innocently, therefore, their possession is in no way improper and in no way illegal.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The judge also <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eff.org\/news\/archives\/2006_05.php#004678\" target=\"_blank\">denied AT&#038;T&#8217;s request to close the courtroom<\/a> during the hearing on the above.<\/p>\n<p>AT&#038;T says it is being unfairly put between a rock and a hard place, being sued but unable to defend itself because of national security considerations.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In court, AT&#038;T attorney Bradford Berenson cast his client as a hapless victim, unable to defend itself while maintaining its national security obligations.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The problem here is not just that the plaintiffs can&#8217;t make their case, but that the defendants can&#8217;t defend themselves,&#8221; said Berenson, noting that some perfectly legal instruments of surveillance, like Patriot Act national security letters, come with binding secrecy requirements.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;AT&#038;T is an innocent bystander, and the fight should be between private parties and the government that started these (surveillance) programs and ran them,&#8221; Berenson told the court.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><small>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boingboing.net\/2006\/05\/17\/wired_news_publishes.html\" target=\"_blank\">BoingBoing<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Not only does AT&#038;T not want to have to defend itself against civil suits regarding information it may have provided the NSA, it doesn&#8217;t want anyone to know about the&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[17],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9660","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-homeland-security"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":5071,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/11\/07\/huh_3.html","url_meta":{"origin":9660,"position":0},"title":"Huh?","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 7-Nov-03 6:24am","format":false,"excerpt":"I am no fan of Micro$oft, as readers of this blog know. 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