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Dispensing with even truthiness

"We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers." Well, there you have it.

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I suppose that, in a way, this is refreshingly honest: Romney's senior campaign staff seems to be publicly and openly saying that they will, in fact, be lying about Obama and his policies in their campaign ads, and they don't see anything wrong with that.

I don't really know what to say about that.

via +Tammy McLeod.

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Mitt Romney Campaign: We Will Not 'Be Dictated By Fact-Checkers'
TAMPA — Mitt Romney's campaign said on Tuesday that its ads attacking President Obama's waiver policy on welfare have been its most effective to date. And while the spots have been roundly criticized…

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11 thoughts on “Dispensing with even truthiness”

  1. Well, since the Obama campaign hasn't let the 'facts get in their way', why should Romney?

    Romney is a felon……according to Harry Reid, who 'heard' he hasn't paid taxes in 10 years. No facts or people to back him up.

    Romney killed a woman via cancer….which wasn't the Obama campaign, per se', but they 'didn't know anything about Soptic's situation'…..even after the conference call with Cutter and Soptic was release.

    Talk about hypocrisy.

  2. Actually, I don't believe Reid said he was a felon, just that he'd heard he hadn't paid anything in taxes, which seems unlikely, but given Romney's refusal to actually release any of those tax returns, it's not a lie, it's a "he said / he said".

    Re the cancer item (which I've only read about second-hand, so can't comment more specifically on), I believe that as the instance that Romney came out on his high horse to claim that a campaign should subject itself to fact-checking. Which lofty words are what the Romney campaign has decided to abandon once it's found an "effective" lie to use.

  3. Actually you're right on the thing with Reid. He didn't call him a felon, just that he had 'heard' he hadn't paid taxes in ten years or some such. I'd think the IRS would have already found that out, by now? I dunno.

    The whole deal with Bain Capital was what brought about the felon charge.

    I think the tone of the campaign was set early on by the Obama Team and now, when they have to deal with some of their own tactics, they're crying 'foul'.

  4. Given I've been seeing reality-shattering anti-Obama commercials at a four-to-one or five-to-one rate for the last year, I think we'll have to disagree on this one. Even if we leave aside the issue of specific, concrete hypocrisy in this issue or the rhetorical question of whether engaging in foul tactics is justified if your opponent is doing it, too.

  5. Yeah, but I mean, you can't really leave out the hypocrisy because the article is being hypocritical…at least in my view.

    Anyway, I'm not saying anything is justified but, if you're playing on the playground, don't cry when you get a skinned knee.

    Down here in Florida, I've seen a pretty even split on the commercials but, admittedly, I don't want a lot of t.v.

    And, just because they say they're not going to let fact checkers dictate their campaign doesn't, necessarily equate to 'we're making stuff up'.

  6. Also, I guess there needs to be some definition as to the nature of the 'anti-Obama' ads. I mean were they calling him a felon? Making fun of his religion? Saying he killed someone? 

    There's 'anti-Candidate' and there there's just downright dirty politics.

  7. I don’t think the article is hypocritical for pointing out what one campaign is doing. It would be hypocritical for the other campaign to do it, but an article about the actions of one campaign is not obligated to discuss both campaigns.

  8. If our useless press actually did their jobs instead of being “View from Nowhere”, He said she said” stenographers, then this would not be the case.

    But it appears in one more way we have gone back to the guilded age with the return of Yellow Journalism where things like facts and truth no longer matter…we are now post truth time.

    In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn’t like about Bush’s former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House’s displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn’t fully comprehend — but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

    The aide said that guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

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