See, I don't remember Christ forming a militia. He didn't seem big on organized armed conflict. And, honestly, he didn't seem big on patriotism, either. So I kind of wonder the thinking that goes into naming your group the "Christian American Patriots Militia".
But I guess when you also figure it's a swell idea to announce that "We now have authority to shoot Obama, i.e., to kill him," rational, lucid, or lexical thinking isn't high on your list of job skills.
Militia nut openly calls for Obama`s assassination on Facebook
`We now have authority to shoot Obama. I would be v. surprised if he is not dead within the month.` – Militia nut on Facebook calls for Obama assassination.
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Look, Dave, you're either going to have to decide to be a 'Christian' or be Christ-like. You can't do both in 21st century America.
They sound like a “Christian Identity” group to me. White supermacist neo-Nazis for whom “Christian” is nothing more than a tribal label.
If they do have any religious beliefs, they’re almost certainly highly heretical ones.
@Tim – Oh, I know. It was mostly rhetorical. And you’re spot on as “nothing more than a tribal label”.
Blows my mind, yes it does.
"EMBRACE THE LOVE OF CHRIST OR WE'LL FUCKING KILL YOU" has been a common enough refrain in the Church's history that I've had a really hard time respecting the Christian faith at all during my life. Somewhere around college, I was able to separate my annoyance with this dogma from how I interacted with actual sincere and spiritual Christians, and I am encouraged by the new Pope not being a complete fartnozzle, but…. yeah.
Even if you ignore the entire religious aspect, the "logic" embodied in the idea that it is "Constitutional" (and, in fact, the 2nd Amendment makes it our duty) to assassinate the President is baffling.
Personally, I'm not of the school that raises concern when crazies are motivated by various views – i.e. "the Tea Party views result in threats to murder Obama" or "the German hyperinflation resulted in Hitler killing millions of Jews." Everest Wilhelmsen, not Michele Bachmann, is solely responsible for whatever Everest Wilhelmsen does.
They call themselves "the Christian Militia" because "the Aryan Militia" tested badly in focus groups.
+John E. Bredehoft I don't draw a solid line, let alone solid responsibility, between the punditry/political zanies and dolts like Wilhelmsen. But there is at least a dotted line. Those people (as do we all) bloviate and expound for a purpose, to influence others. Hell, they get paid for that purpose. To then exonerate them because the murderous types take the ball and run with it, even in a direction they wouldn't have overtly supported.
That doesn't take anything away from Wilhelmsen's responsibility, but responsibility isn't a zero-sum game.
Funny how the Left thought it was humorous when the exact same things were said about Bush.
I think they even made a movie about it.
+Mark Means I didn't think it was funny. For one thing, I'm not that bloodthirsty; for another thing, I wouldn't want Dick Cheney as President under any circumstances.
+Charles Urban Hey, congrats….I'm surprised they still let you stay in the party.
+Mark Means I'm unaffiliated. Nae king, nae quin, nae laird, nae master. I willnae be fooled again.
+Mark Means I don't recall the movie about the assassination of Bush being presented as a comedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President_(2006_film)) . I do recall a lot of folks of all persuasions thinking it was in bad taste, to say the least (Sen. Hillary Clinton said, for example, "I think it's despicable. I think it's absolutely outrageous. That anyone would even attempt to profit on such a horrible scenario makes me sick.")
Nor was the film presented as an argument about why killing Bush was laudable or constitutionally justified.
Aside from that it's exactly alike, right?
+Dave Hill No, it wasn't presented as a comedy, but that didn't mean people on the left didn't find it funny.
Or perpetuate it.
Or think they were "morally right" in doing so.
Sure, a lot did find it in bad taste, just as I'm sure that a lot of people (myself included) are finding this in bad taste.
Nutjobs think the president should be killed for viable (in their eyes) reasons…..so, yeah, it is pretty much the same thing.
+Mark Means I'm trying to find anyone who thought it was "funny," or who wanted to "perpetuate" something about it.
(The film, as I understand it, extrapolated from a presidential assassination how the US would react in terms of national security and civil liberties. It was not focused on a conspiracy about Bush, let alone advocating such a thing.)
That said, I have no doubt there were lunatics on the far left who wanted, or even advocated, for Bush to be killed. That's very different from generally labeling "the Left" as supporting such folks (or finding their sentiments "hilarious").