Because of course he is, regardless of evidence, or readiness, or military impact.
Because why not? He’s not the one who will be affected (or have to pay for any law suits). That will fall to the taxpayers.
And, of course, there’s the Friday night timing for the ban. It’s usually the time chosen to avoid interfering with or distracting from the week’s activities, or else to fly under the news radar. But this week was a hot mess for the Administration’s news cycle, and this particular announcement isn’t going to vanish over the weekend.
Nor do I expect it to stand, in the long run. But in the meantime, lives will be disrupted, the base gets some red meat, culture wars can be rekindled, dogs can feel appropriately whistled, and the Administration can remind the electorate what they and the GOP stand for.
White House declares ban on transgender people serving in military | US news | The Guardian
I don't think the woman pictured will be serving anytime soon. Most trans-women in the military transition after military service. This really affects trans-men.
Hmm. A distraction from the gun violence marchers today?
not sharing my fighting hole with one of those, either
If you are born with a penis you're a male. If you are born with a vagina you're a female. Short men don't want to be short, but that's life. Ugly women don't want to be ugly, but that's life. Live with it!!!
An Abomination to God Too…
God is going to punish us because of these people…
They're banded because they were using the system to get thier surgery covered. I don't want my tax dollars to help you change the way you "think" you should be.
Question: Why else would these people be in such an uproar to want to serve and posible loose thier lives?
Good for you President Trump. I support your decision. BRAVO !
Or doing one of the things he was elected to do. Most liberals are no better an expert on the military then he is.
Transgender is a mental disorder instead of giving these people surgery to change they way they look to make them temporarily feel good about themselves give them mental health services, if Transgender wasn't a mental health illness then why do these individuals kill themselves at three times the rate of any other group of people in this country.
doesnt post-op transgender have one of the highest suicide rates out of all demographics?
No shit they're banned from service, you have to be mentally stable and physically healthy
+The Ozark Howler not really I should be do for boot camp around May 💪
+Clay Brinker You can't even fucking spell lol
+The Ozark Howler Okay I typed a bit fast learn to debate correctly instead of like way too many liberals these days who always attack those who disagree with them.
+changethecurrent Don't be jealous, it's a sin lolol
+Clay Brinker Being a bigot is not healthy. Sorry for your failure and low IQ.
+The Ozark Howler lol typical, your only counterargument is "REEE BIGOT"
Truth hurts sometimes sorry fucker
+Louis Doggett don't be sad that I attacked you for being bigoted. You should be used to it.
+Clay Brinker Truth is you are a low IQ bigot. Do you know what a bigot is? Need help?
+The Ozark Howler you already repeated those exact lines, do you have anything slightly educated to say before fucking off?
+American Mastiff yeah its a cross dressing fetish gone to far. What the medical industry is doing is on purpose. they normalize this freak show then prescribe estrogen to turn the indoctrinated youth into sissies. this shit is not goin' on in the majority of the world which makes you wonder what the agenda is here. I know one thing when the Russians or the Chinese storm north America we are gonna be fucked if all we got are mental case trannys and their boyfriends to throw at them…….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IonXJLLJ5U
+Clay Brinker I'd say that you have no right to tell other people what they can and can't do and that you come across acting like a big man but your views are those of a scared fucking pussy.
+The Ozark Howler WTF would you know about sin?
+changethecurrent I would know that it is a Christian thing that dumb shits like you believe in lol
+changethecurrent that's a good one. The difference between you and me is that I don't interfere in people's lives telling them what they should and shouldn't do. I believe in freedom. You are anti-freedom. You suck.
+The Ozark Howler Typical snowflake running from the truth. In her India blunder Hillary laid out all the liberal comebacks: racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. We tend to be realists, Howler. If you were born a boy, you are a dude, period.
+The Ozark Howler of course you're the expert on it 😂
+ToughSlr The truth is you think you are better than other people but all evidence points to you being quite a loser.
+The Ozark Howler so the doctors are not interfering making boys into girls??? they just helpin' right??? Makin' all that bank from the estrogen pills??turning those little kids into sissies?? The schools not interfering either with how a parent raises their child?? all the schools are doing is helping the boys explore their freedoms right??
+Clay Brinker I like how you dodged any form of intelligence. Great effort!
+The Ozark Howler It matters a lot to me. I don't want to see any of the kids in my family end up mind fucked by this twisted BS. The bigger question is why does it matter so much to you?
+changethecurrent it matters to me because I don't want to see anyone fucked up by twisted right wing authoritarian lickspittles like you who can't mind their own business and think they have the right to bully people who are different to them.
+The Ozark Howler Its a free country miss, you best get use to it. your sissy click ain't gonna silence me. I don't fit inside the normal paradigms of right and left. I have not been in that pyramid scheme since 911.
+changethecurrent You are a proud bully. I get it.
+The Ozark Howler freedom of speech is not bullying. it is the founding principle of this nation. If you do not like freedom of speech their are many countries that do not allow it. you are more then welcome to go to those nation but I believe your views will not be accepted there as well. I have no issue with you speaking your views but I will in no way be silenced by these tactics that these special interest groups like to deploy whenever someone does not agree with their way of thinking.
+changethecurrent Your idea of freedom is that you should be free to limit the freedoms of others.
+American Mastiff perhaps because of attitudes like yours.
+Dave Hill where the fuck are all my comments
+Steve Shelton Except that studies showed that most trans people serving weren't actually getting reassignment surgery through the military. And the taxpayer cost to those few who would represented a fraction of military spending on, for example, Viagra.
Why would "these people" want to serve and possibly lose their lives? For the same reason any person does. Or are you suggesting that people only serve in the military for the benefits package?
+CHANGE THECURRENT If your comments are missing it's because I found them objectionable for one or more of a variety of reasons.
God how Iove Trump!
Trump keep on cleaning up the mess Obama left us GO TRUMP
The Wapo article indicates this is Mattis' ban, not Trump's (though with his support), and indicates a few odd nuances (including grandfathering in existing trans service members).
https://wapo.st/2G7G5ZV
+American Mastiff – According to the American Psychiatric Association, being transgender doesn't make someone mentally ill. Here's the Q&A from their website.
http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx
+Dave Hill or because you dislike freedom of speech. guess what buddy everyone is talkin now. you are out of your mind if you think people are gonna stay silent on this little freak show of tolerance thats goin on.
+CHANGE THECURRENT – First, freedom of speech is meant to prevent government censorship. That's what the first amendments is about. Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religious expression, freedom to protest, etc. It's funny how Trump supporters are very concerned about freedom of speech when it's their speech that's affected, but not when other people's rights are violated.
It's hard to understand how someone can say that a person with a gun that kills someone else has a mental health illness but if they kill themself they have no mental health problem what so ever the problem with society is people will only accept what furthers their agenda or what their idea of what life is supposed to be if we lived with the idea that "I don't want my rights taken so I won't fight to take others " and everyone stay out of others business we would be in a better place
+American Mastiff – there is no way for people to stay out of other's business with everyone being on social media now. I say that most of the problems we have are because of social networks. Everyone is in everyone else's faces. And that's never good. There is so much extra conflict we're exposed to. There is a lot of information we're exposed to as well. 95% of the stuff posted on the Internet is pure garbage. But it fuels the masses. And nobody wants to take your rights away. We need answers. We need a way to work through the problems we have without stepping on each other's toes. We don't seem to be able to do that. I don't have answers.
When it comes to suicide, that's linked to mental health. But shooting and killing someone isn't always linked to mental health. I think it should be reexamined by the experts. Suicide is a serious issue. It tears families apart. But so does murder. I had a friend who was murdered in 2000. It's still difficult.
+David Labor I am not the one that censored all my comments. so all that jazz about trump supporters is not gonna cut it. Is the tranny thing up for debate or we all gonna play the bully bullshit card?
+CHANGE THECURRENT – as a member of the LGBT, this is not up for debate. The experts have spoken. That's all I need. The debate is over.
+David Labor sorry thats not how this country works. This cross dressing fetish is a mental illness and doctors need to stop prescribing estrogen to boys. Your little click is gonna have to get use to a majority opposing arguments.
+CHANGE THECURRENT – You're done addressing me. You don't have the expertise to make judgement calls against people who have studied this and are now experts. When you can show me your PhD in Psychology, then you can have a say. Until then, buzz off! I don't need angry people trying to tell me anything.
+David Labor its not experts that run the government it is we the people.
Nice to see that the fascist god botherers have shown up to hate and oppress those different from them again.
+CHANGE THECURRENT Ultimately, this is my post that you came over to comment on. If I find your tone or language or whatever to be unhelpful toward discussion, or just plain mean, I have the ability and responsibility to delete it.
https://plus.google.com/+DaveHill47/posts/CsKfTCmnMpA
For what it's worth, I've left up some comments here I ideologically disagree with. I also deleted some that I sympathized with on one level, but found sufficiently attacking that I felt a responsibility to delete them, too.
There's no censorship here; you have the right to post whatever you want under your own pseudonym, within Google's TOS, just like me.
If you're only interested in rants and slurs and ad hominem and entitled shoutiness, please do it elsewhere.
https://plus.google.com/+DaveHill47/posts/CsKfTCmnMpA
+CHANGE THECURRENT on further reading, "tranny" is a disqualifying word around here. Aloha.
+Steve Shelton
There is no way to discern someone is transgender if they have not yet started transition. So it really wouldn't stop them from using the VA to perform transgender related surgeries. In the grand scheme of things, this cost is a drop in the bucket due to the small portion of the population that are transgender. The VA has much bigger cost overruns to address.
You shouldn't give minors estrogen. It may make them permanently infertile.
I believe everyone should have the right to serve regardless what sex you classify yourself. If you want to serve your country your gender or preferred sex should not stop you. You should be treated like everyone else no matter your color race or sex or even if your from this planet you should have the right to serve your country if you want to
Aha. Pence is heavily involved in this. Of course.
While TP tends toward rhetorical bombast, this seems a decent survey of both the history and cast of characters behind this order (issued under Mattis' name, but not in keeping with his earlier policy), some of the odd details around which trans people can actually serve (and a bit of blackmail around that), as well as some of the pseudo science put forward to justify the order.
https://thinkprogress.org/pence-responsible-for-trump-transgender-military-ban-f4d3b67bde47/
+Dave Hill – that explains everything. Pence has been anti-LGBT for as long as I can remember. Pence supports conversions therapy which doesn't work and is harmful to the person.