https://buy-zithromax.online buy kamagra usa https://antibiotics.top buy stromectol online https://deutschland-doxycycline.com https://ivermectin-apotheke.com kaufen cialis https://2-pharmaceuticals.com buy antibiotics online Online Pharmacy vermectin apotheke buy stromectol europe buy zithromax online https://kaufen-cialis.com levitra usa https://stromectol-apotheke.com buy doxycycline online https://buy-ivermectin.online https://stromectol-europe.com stromectol apotheke https://buyamoxil24x7.online deutschland doxycycline https://buy-stromectol.online https://doxycycline365.online https://levitra-usa.com buy ivermectin online buy amoxil online https://buykamagrausa.net

How much do the Republicans hate Obamacare?

Do they hate it enough to allow their new refundable tax credit scheme to be used by people for private insurance plans that cover (gasp!) abortion? Because if they don't, the Senate Parliamentarian has ruled the bill cannot go forward as a budget reconciliation, as it's setting policy ("Abortion bad!") rather than about saving / adjusting money (which is all you can do in reconciliation), meaning it would require a cloture vote, meaning the Dems could block it if they wanted to.

Of course, the GOP can simply change the rules (again), and they certainly have the nerve to ("Norms? Who needs norms? We don't need no stinking norms! We're the majority!"), but sooner or later that's going to come back to haunt them.




Parliamentarian threatens deadly blow to GOP healthcare bill
A key provision in the bill related to abortion is unlikely to be allowed.

View on Google+

188 view(s)  

74 thoughts on “How much do the Republicans hate Obamacare?”

  1. +Veronica Harwick They actually were beginning to make moves in that direction — see Romneycare, and the Heritage Foundation's proposals, which presaged the ACA.

    But the Republican strategic decision in 2009 that Obama delenda est meant that anything from national health insurance reform to cap-and-trade on carbon went out the window if it might possibly mean that the GOP didn't win "all the points."

  2. +ulysses conway As Americans, we all pay for things that we don't approve of… I disagree with abortion and war… a truly pro-life person… We pay for all kinds of unnecessary and unethical things with our taxes… like billionaire Trump using tax money for his perpetual weekend getaways and security for Trump family business. Our tax money is pooled together for those in power to distribute it as they see fit according to our law.

  3. To take politics out of it,let's see. Shop around for insurance is a joke. The system is gamed, if you don't realize that ,your head is somewhere else and not in the realm of reality. Yuuuup.

  4. +Veronica Harwick article after article I have read and all the complaining posts here never, Never, address the fact that medical providers are gouging people for basic health care. When a person goes to their primary care physician for a sore throat they are not being charged by the insurance company for the visit. Your healthcare provider has priced themselves out of the market so that people rely on insurance to spread the cost out. Now even that is not working because the healthcare providers are continuing to increase costs beyond any sort of reason, far surpassing inflation. These doctors,and when I say doctors I mean everyone involved in medicine, will do the same to government. Imagine if your food suppliers get the same idea. What can you do? Pay or die.

  5. Republicans stoled that 52 votes from Bill Clinton..
    Copy write infringement.
    In this case they have no Democrats.
    That shows how diffecult it's going to take and pass the executive order.
    You just don't change anything over nite..
    6 years to pass,,there's no order legislation to change that.
    Comey testified against Trump on Thursday,,so his orders are coming to a screeching halt..
    Why nobody post that?
    Trumps obstruction of justice is worst then Nixon's ah,huh.
    Which cost his resignation

  6. +Veronica Harwick +David In half defense of the Republicans, Obama took their plan for his own. What Republicans derisively call "Obamacare" was largely written by Republicans in the early days of Bill Clinton's administration. Since Republicans couldn't be seen supporting anything Obama said or did, it meant that Republicans had to denounce their own plan and they had nothing prepared for negotiation.

    Had Obama started with something actually progressive, like single payer, he would have left the Republicans room to negotiate. We'd have probably still been stuck with the lackluster "Obamacare" but at least the Republicans would have considered it a victory and would have likely left it in place instead of trying to go back to square one like they are now.

    You'll also notice that corporate Democrats are opposing Republican attempts to repeal "Obamacare," they have no real plans to counter the Republicans. They've half heartedly promised to support single payer if they regain Congress, but they don't advocate for it now. They wouldn't want to risk getting cut off by their donors in the insurance industry.

  7. #100 % Forward Donald J Trump, You have to sue or die, now have stop the impunity of public corruption and treason, now You must act now serving as president defending the constitution as all patriot citizens have the constitutional obligation to do in defense of their homeland of our homeland, no matter what your appointed was made by the decision of the unconstitutional electoral college of 538 traitors: 100 senators, 435 representatives and 3 puppet of DC, who only went to serve in the legislative branch (bicameral congress) to make the laws, but they were never authorized by the constitutional To name the president, they as part of current tyranny bipartisan who make up super cartel GOP- DNC injected of unconstitutional elite conservative and liberal come violating the constitution viciously supplanted to the inalienable and sovereign will of the voters, who on 11.8.2016 concurred to To exercise their right to vote by depositing their The amphorae.

    In fact, Donald J Trump also as the current de facto president, has a constitutional obligation of the highest state of power, also to defend and enforce the constitution, ordering the immediate revocation of all laws made unconstitutionally by the tyranny GOP-DNC:

    As the unconstitutional and unlawful universal health insurance for life and for them and their relatives who made the same presidents, senators and representatives, to grant themselves for their own benefit without the corresponding ratification of the 50 independent states of the union of USA Republic;

    As the unconstitutional act of Obamacare disaster and monster tax fraud made in consensus by tyranny GOP-DNC and that they themselves now seek to cover up with another disaster under "repeal and replace" injunction with repetition – repeat – drawing -to copy for recycle with another so-called unconstitutional imposition bill AHCA Ryan -Trump, make with consensus purpose GOP-DNC conceal -cover up the fraud of the Obamacare disaster that they did and to protect the illicit benefits of private healthcare companies, cartel of national and foreign Pharmaceutical industries and banks of wall street omitting from the state was created to be the great auditor and moral guide for free enterprise activity and free competition and never competitive.

    As an unconstitutional order it updates illicit act Johnson to do tax evasion and violate the 1st Amendment. The state never has to be tied to any church, it was created for the guide of morality to carry all Americans practice their faith in freedom without them wanting to impose their religion on another citizen.

    As unconstitutional trades NAFTA-CHINA created by tyranny GOP-DNC to do fraud with tax evasion monsters for illegal and illicit benefits of manufacturing, drug and pharmaceutical companies and technology companies, Wall Street Bank.
    As an injurious and unconstitutional judicial decision, unlawful judges who have illegally legislated on the so-called Affirmative Action that imposes sanctions for life on the USA taxpayers, created a fraudulent right of compensation on facts that have occurred before independence; And an unconstitutional judicial decision to impose legislation to create rights for officially insane marriages between same sex, relatives and pets.

    The president also has a constitutional obligation of removal to injure unconstitutional permanence to ensure for Americans that all judicial decisions are predictable established in the written and mandatory constitution that does not authorize interpretation to the judges and officials, and that now they are practicing monstrously the judges Such as made unconstitutionally swearing consecutive times to a citizen born in Kenya for the office of the presidency who is bound to proscription rule of war and human crime called sharia, judges who publicly show severe aging and weakness of their health, epileptic, Alzheimer's Disease, schizophrenic, and chocheria samples in their judicial decisions, who have been passing their 72 years without the mandatory control of their states of health status annually, 72 years limit for all Americans without exclusion who have to withdraw from their daily duties to retire from their daily Labor.

    The president has a constitutional obligation to remove from his offices and order the US Marshal to arrest all senators and representatives who are more than two terms illegal, illicit, malicious and unconstitutional in violation of the XXII Amendment stating that no other official election may be Above the President, the constitution does not establish lifetime charge for any elected or non-elected official that is the fundamental political structure for the work of the democracy of USA republic 50 independent states of American union.

    The president acts to enforce the constitution has to defend to USA republic 50 independent states of American union, that need action against enemies and treasons Foundation Clinton-Bush-Obama impostor to celebrate July Fourth Independence DAY, national interest…
    constitutionus.com

  8. Prior to Obama taking office, 8years before Trump took office, Republicans had time to change the healthcare​ bill, but they had no ideas, they have no ideas, they don't even have a clue ! But just because Trump has it in for Obama, because he had to come second behind Obama to do his term in office, the Republicans are pushing cause Trump wants every and any trace of Obama erased from ever being a President, cause Trump is a low life biget ! His need to get rid of any thing Obama has done, brings about an deep seeded hatred that he can not hide ! Trump has only sought after 2things since taking office, COVER UP HIS PAST BLUNDERS, and GET RID OF EVERY TRACE OF OBAMA, OR TALK NEGATIVELY ABOUT OBAMA ! But the poor unfortunate toddler doesn't understand that he "Trump" alone is keeping OBAMA on the minds of everyone the more he tries putting him down ! But a toddler can only know so much ! Trump never knew politics, so the blam for his foolishness, falls solely on the Republicans for offering such a Trainwrecked candidate to sit in that office, so that means none of them know any better, cause if they did, they wouldn't have put America in harm's way ! Or the other side is that the republican party is just a bunch of greedy politicians, who only want to fill up their pockets with money and never cared about America's well-being to begin with and put America in harm's way !!!!

  9. I am very happy for my hubby who was cured from weak erection and premature ejaculation, for the past 2 years plus we have not make sex, our marriage was frustrating and we where about to have a divorce because I was tired of the marriage, we discuss with our lawyer but he advise us to search for a solution , by doing that we saw a post of a man thanking a Doctor called Dr Olumba for curing him from the same problem so we contacted him and he sold the drugs to us and now after 3 weeks he manhood where erecting and he can now last long , We where very happy and our life have tune around for good,if you have weak erection and premature ejaculation you can contact him in his Email….drolumbaayi@gmail.com

  10. Trump never had a plan for healthcare reform, he's too unstable, uneducated, unlearned to have known, nor will he ever ! He relies on his little tiddlywink buddies in his republican party to do it for him, he never had a clue, if they come up with anything at all, Trump will staple his name all on it ! Truth is, if they come up with any thing soon, if will be rushed and a flop, worse than their thoughts of OBAMACARE, cause they never really considered all that was involved, at least OBAMA was a real President who "came" with a plan , but this causes Trump to resent him, cause Trump realizes, OBAMA proved himself as educated, wise, stable, diplomatic, able to perform the duties of a President, unlike Trump, who will NEVER. be able to fill those shoes ! NIXON wasn't even as bad as this Trump chaos !!!

  11. +Wayne Henderson it was Republicans whom passed Clinton,s health care
    Obama care is of the same substance.
    Bill had don't ask don't tell
    And Obama,s health care made it OK to be gaye

    One hand wash the other
    Two hands washes the face.
    Your rite Trump trying to get this off for an agenda,, cause of Obama.
    Listen. Trump about to resign.
    The Senate hearing is going to write up his impeachment of office.
    Asking first his resignation.
    It's not going to pass the Senate floor.
    Comey testified against Trump on Thursday.
    Supreme Court is calling for trumps testimony for what he's been saying..
    That is something to look into

  12. +Jatpack 2.0 how about a single payer national system, like the rest of the civilized world. We pay more with worse outcomes than anywhere in the world. But the GOP needs the money from doctor's so they can continue to rape this country and its people while they serve their rich masters.

  13. +Jason Allen if that were true, then why are they try'n to top something that …..you say they created to begin with, since they don't like it, why can't they do anything better, if they came up with this plan themselves, what they came up with it, knew it was bad, then make it look like OBAMA came up with it by himself ? The Republicans don't have anything……at all. ! For this whole past 16years up to the present, they've run out of ideas ! They may have abandoned the healthcare, but, if they couldn't do better for 8years before Trump, what. EVER they come up with in this year's time will be deadly. For every one ! If you couldn't do it in 8years, why would any one agree with their rushed version, even the Republicans ? IT WON'T BE BETTER, THUS, MAK'N OBAMA LOOK EVEN MORE LIKE A HERO !!!!!!!! I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU BE FROM THE BACK ROADS OF TEXAS, ARK, MISS, WHERE EVER,! FOR THE MOST PART, PEOPLE ARE JUST SAYING IT'S NOT WORKING, BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE TRUMP BAND WAGON ! MOST HAVE NOT EVEN USED IT, BECAUSE IT WAS FROM A BLACK PRESIDENT, NOW YOU HAVE FAILING HEALTH NALL BECAUSE OF HATRED OF A MAN OF COLOR !!! CHANI LYNN ROBINSON IS RIGHT !!!!! TEXAS DON'T WANT OBAMA CARE BECAUSE OF BEING RACISTS AND YOUR HATRED ….PERIOD !

  14. They seem to be blaming OBAMA for the plan, now what is it, the Republicans came up with it, or was it the Democrat's, regardless to who , they blame OBAMA for it, so give him credit for executing a plan, when no one else would, bunch of backwood hillbillies wouldn't even have that, cause the Republicans had it at one point, no isurance no service ! Now you have something and too stubborn and stupid to use it !

  15. How about going back to what was before the Government intervention into health care. When the money dries up the cost will go down. Anytime the government is involved it is like a candy store with free candy. Look at the public universities and government loans. I hate it for those that can't afford health care. I grew up when only the very wealthy had health insurance. We were healthier and more prosperous. It is a scam to grab what little money the middle class is making. You are going down the road to surfdome.

  16. +bill antestenis I'm with you on that !!! And the Republicans have been rape'n the American public for years ! I remember that foolish Reagan was in office, past a bill for our childrens lunch programs in schools Nationwide "to consider Ketscup" to be a vegetable and it got past…….even though a tomato is a fruit ! They all smoke recycled crack !!!!

  17. +Honor thy Mother and thou Father See, that's my point exactly! Let Texas keep their hatred, and then .die early if that's what they want ! But don't blame a bank cause your bills aren't paid when you're the only one who can sign your name on the check ! It's up to them to go for what is available for them, not anyone else's fault ! But they want a reason to blame OBAMA, BECAUSE OF RACISM, BIGOTRY, HATRED TAUGHT BY THEIR PARENTS AND GROUPS THEY JOINED AFTER, TO LEARN TO HATE EVEN DEEPER !!!!

  18. +bill antestenis you have the only answer that makes sense – I have worked for MDs and insurance companies – they will always go for the big profits. It will never pass in this country; however, because every​ politician (both parties!) has a great stock portfolio of insurance, big pharma, and minute clinics stock.

  19. +Tommy Cee Yes all presidents go on retreats and spend some weekends away from the WH. Trump said he would stay at the WH, unlike Obama, to save taxpayer money… that was a lie… and he has actually surpassed Obama in costing taxpayers a fortune. Staying in Trump's personally owned resorts saves no money for taxpayers but does also add to Trump's personal bank account; sort of a double impact.
    There was also that prolonged very costly stay for the first lady and their son in Trump Towers in NYC… very expensive… Security for the Trump family personal business trips are also being covered by Americans. You'd think that he would cover all the expenses for himself… since he's a billionaire and all.

  20. +Veronica Harwick You are so right Veronica, just his first 90 days flying back and forth to Fla. Had to cost taxes, he hasn't completed 6months yet ! He is more of a problem than a help ! All that he does at this point is to benefit his own pocket ! THAT'S WHAT TRUMP HAS ACCOMPLISHED, MAKING THAT OFFICE HIS PIGGY BANK……HIS ATM !!!!

  21. +Jatpack 2.0 on this you are correct. The ACA was the first step toward that single payer system. Why do you think insurance companies are dropping the ACA. The ACA is the first step in making insurance companies obsolete. Want the truth, FOLLOW THE MONEY.

  22. +Chani Lynn Robinson I love how you think ! Your eyes are open , that's what we need more of, in fact all those who have their eyes open and can clearly see that Trump is just using America , keep it up ! Cause I think it will get worse before any better for America,as long as Trump remains in office ! Trump is mezmorizing all those who put him in office so, that they can't see that when it starts raining, whoever is outside in it, something on them will get wet ! Too bad republican general working class public, is limited in mind,, because of hatred and stupidity !

  23. Trump just admitted his own health care won't work!!! He's worried Comey just destroyed his whole family!!! Comey has just put this DICTATOR next to Saddam Hussain!!! We should have never bothered him!! He kept the people there silent and scared of him, he kept that whole region at Bay!! Bad nor good!! You don't scare up a wasp nest in order to make good on bad intentions!!! Thank you REPUBLICANS for destroying our future!!!! Sorry world!! The electoral votes of just a few hundred will never bring the millions of all of us real Americans down!! We will never forgive, nor will we ever forgive the tyranny this DICTATOR has done!! For we are the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! OUR GREAT AMERICAN TAXPAYING BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO HAVE SPILLED BLOOD UNLIKE THIS DICTATOR WILL AND DESERVE OUR COUNTRY A HUGE APOLOGY!!! STEP DOWN COWARD!!(. YOU ARE A BIGLY DISGRACE TO ALL OF OUR AMERICAN HEROS NO AMERICAN S SHOULD EVER BE LEFT ALONE!!! WE OWN THIS DICTATOR!! YOU VOTED FOR THIS DICTATOR!! NOW OUR KIDS, GRANDPARENTS DEPEND ON IMPEACHMENT!!! MILLIONS ARE HISTORY IF THIS DICTATOR GIES THROUGH WITH HIS DUMBASS PROGRAM!! HES DONE!!! IMPEACH!!! AND IMPRISSON!!!

  24. +Mariano Loo I'm with you on this ! The biggest problem we have is…………Trump doesn't know much of anything concerning do's and don'ts, of politics ! He's only go'n in a forward motion with what those other Republican baffoons are telling him he can go towards ! The truth is he doesn't know what he's doing, nor do the people in his cabinet have a clue as to what the boundaries are for their mad machine of corruption ! Trump doesn't even know much about the civil war, or he was openly saying he was just fine with slaves being in America so "why did we have the civil war" ! From his mindset ! ….. don't ever expect him to honor the Constitution ! With all that you just wrote, you are right in all that you say !!!!!

  25. +Robby Rash The ACA isn't health care, it's health insurance. The "mandatory tax" is simply a (low-ball) effort to encourage participation so that the risk pool is spread amongst the largest population.

    That said, there are ways of doing it that aren't working through insurance companies (and employers). That, unfortunately, was not the first step taken, and even how it's currently constituted is too radical a step for the GOP.

  26. THIS IS SUCH B. S. ! THE REPUBLICANS HAD 2 YEARS TO COME UP WITH THEIR OWN HEALTH CARE ! OBAMA ASKED THEM TO PUT IN ! THE REPUBLICANS SAID THAT THEY HAD . THEIR OWN HEALTH CARE BUT IT NEVER CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THEY WERE LIEING ! THEY ARE TRYING TO PATCH UP BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW NOR WHAT'S RIGHT FOR ALL AMERICANS ! JUST LIKE THEY SAID THEY THEY WASN'T GOING TO OVERTURN EVERYTHING THAT OBAMA DID IS JUST ANOTHER LIE ! THEY DIDN'T LIKE HIM FROM THE BEGINNING ! NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO BLAME THE DEMOCRATS ! JUST LIKE WHEN THE REPUBLICANS WANTED FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DIED IN THE 911 ATTACKS TO SUE OTHER'S WHICH WOULD LEAVE THE AMERICA WIDE OPEN FOR YOU TON OF LAWSUIT AGAINST AMERICA ITSELF ! THE REPUBLICANS STILL BLAMED OBAMA AND THE STUPID AMERICANS BELIEVED IT ! IT'S A SHAME AMERICANS BELIEVED ANY LIES THEY SAY !

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *