Interesting video talking about how, essentially, the entire Hobbit trilogy was barely held together, plotting / writing-wise, due to lack of prep time for things like plotting and storyboarding and actually thinking about what the hell they were doing.
In other words, it was like NaNoWriMo, with a multi-million dollar budget.
Blaming a lack of time for flaws in a film is a hoary excuse. But it seems to fit with the problems that the Hobbit trilogy had, in terms of making bad long-story decisions in favor of making short-story flashy events.
What we ended up with is still a hell of a lot better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, but it made for a tale that is far too easy to rightfully criticize, and which tarnishes that vastly superior Lord of the Rings trilogy in its thoughtlessness.
Peter Jackson Explains All of the Hobbit Movie Problems
In a vivid portrait of brutal honestly, a The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies special feature reveals why the trilogy was a disappointment.
"The Hobbit" movies sucked out loud from start to finish. J. R. R. Tolkien must have been spinning in his grave at the insult that hack Jackson made of such a wonderful story.
The Hobbit sucked, and the studio was stupid, crapping on what had been an excellent franchise. Any newbs to the movies who watch LOTR first will be sorely disappointed in The Hobbit, and those unfortunate souls who watch The Hobbit first, well they probably won't even give LOTR a chance if they expect more of the same.
Oh, and I don't think Jackson is being entirely honest. I have no doubt he felt pressure to get a movie out, but the main problem was that what would've worked perfectly as one film was forced to stretch into three.
There are a lot of creative decisions in the Hobbit films I disagree with, and a lot of things I would have liked to see done differently — but to say they "sucked" is a wild overstatement, IMO. Growing up, I would have killed with my bare fingers and teeth to see those movies.
They are certainly sub-par … if par is the LotR trilogy.
I'm not sure that making The Hobbit into more than one film was the most fundamental error. If you are going to do something tonally consistent with the LotR movies (and I think you would have heard equally loud wails of despair and frustration if they hadn't), trying to fit all of that into a single 2.5h movie would be insane. Hell, even a straight-up telling of the tale (itself problematic) would have been tough to do without great gnashing of teeth.
But from the decision to make multiple films, a lot of room for bad decision making falls in.
One thing that rings true about this account is that some of the worst decisions — the overreliance on CG foremost amongst them — can be seen as easily coming from production under rushed circumstances, and filling in "oh, we didn't think of that" with "hey, we'll just CG it" (or even "what do we do at this point?" "damned if I know, we'll fix it in post with CG"). Other things that come out as unpolished — the whole Tauriel story line prominent among them — again speak to a lack of hammering through the tale multiple times.
Not that this gets Jackson off the hook — while it is easy enough to say far removed from the fact, he could have told the studios that, no, he couldn't pull this rabbit out of his hat, and that the needed to pony up for more prep time. Since I don't know the costs involved in such a stand, it's hard to say if that would have been reasonable, but Jackson not walking away when Del Toro did (sigh) led directly to what we ended up with, sizeable warts and all.
When are u bringing the hobbit 4.I don't see a thing wrong about it.I enjoyed watching
+Anderson Young Mark There is no Hobbit 4 planned. That's the end of the story (or, Middle Earth-wise, that's the end of the intro to the Lord of the Rings).
Alright.waiting for another great movie from you guys..
Over bloated
Self indulgent
Horribly written
A complete disregard for the original material.
Peter Jackson shit all over The Hobbit. "Tonally consistant" is just the first problem. It should have never been the goal. It helped make The Hobbit as bad as Phantom Menace…
The above video is nothing but a propaganda piece. If these shitty movies had done well, you can bet all this exact same footage would have been cut together very differently. It's a crock. It's Peter Jackson making excuses for making awful movies.
Ef him.
He's a hack, who got a little lucky with some of LOTR.
+Clinton Hammond Don't beat around the bush — tell us what you really think …
Oh you don't want to know what I really think…..
The first one I’ll probably never watch again. Drove cross-town, 3-D, so disappointed.
The second had some good bits… that were stretched out to ridiculous lengths.
The third had sufficient good bits that I bought it. Last week. Cheap. (Favorite bit was, as Blanchett put it, Galadriel losing her shit.) Most of the good bits stretched out far too long though.
Mortensen has said that PJ started going CGI-happy by The Return of the King. I agree.