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The 50 Greatest Sci-Fi TV Shows (kinda-sorta more-or-less) (Redux)

So this is based on an article from a Popular Mechanics (!) article on "The 50 Greatest Sci-Fi Shows Ever" [http://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/movies/g156/the-50-greatest-sci-fi-tv-shows]. See here [https://hill-kleerup.org/blog/2015/10/17/the-50-greatest-sci-fi-tv-shows-kinda-sorta-more-or-less.html] for caveats and comments on that list.

I've decided to do my own force ranking (thanks +Stan Pedzick), working within the same list (to do otherwise would be to court madness). And, because I can (and, apparently, have way too much free time on my hands), I'll annotate it. Because the Internet.

First, the shows I never watched sufficiently to judge — they either never grabbed me, or were on at an odd time, or I missed the tide in watching them. (Please don't ply me with DVDs; my backlog of stuff to watch already reaches past the Singularity.) They are ordered as per the original rankings:

Dark Angel (46)
Jericho (44)
Life on Mars [2006] (40)
Lexx (39)
Twin Peaks (37)
Caprica (34)
Red Dwarf (27)
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (26)
Star Blazers / Space Battleship Yamato (20)
Blake's 7 (15)
Lost (12)

The rest are ranked by some idiosyncratic mish-mosh of how I like them plus what quality I think they are. I;ve indicated past the title the original ranking; the lower-ranked ones are helped a lot by dropping out the above 11 choices. Since I broke them up into three groups for initial sorting, I've kept them that way.

(Force ranking of this sort is one of my least favorite activities, since on any given day or for any given episode, I could easy see any of these rankings +/5.)

BOTTOM OF THE CLASS

39. Knight Rider (45) – Silly kids fare, with minimal FX and zero SFishness aside from snarky car AI. Though I still love Marc Daniels.

38. Battle of the Planets (41) — Noteworthy mainly for still inspiring cosplay.

37. The Six Million Dollar Man (47) — I would still watch this at the drop of a hat, but its SF elements were awful.

36. Logan's Run (28) — Deep 70s SF, variable "worlds," pretty bad writing.

35. Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (36) — Space fantasy, though I still dearly love the stargate effect.

34. Lost in Space (31) — The first show to really get space opera in everyone's living room, dragged down by camp silliness that only increased each season.

33. _Thunderbirds (50) — Crunchy SF with marionettes and kiddy melodrama. I still marvel at this show.

32. Land of the Lost (49) — Hurt by being a Saturday morning "cartoon" period show, it's still (behind the awful stop-action) full of some very cool SF concepts.

31. V [1983] (13) — Brought big screen TV SF to life as an "event" — but with writing straight out of Dallas or Dynasty.

30. War of the Worlds (38) — A personal favorite of mine, if for no other reason than bringing back those lovely swan-necked Martian War Machines from the Pal movie.

29. Mystery Science Theater 3000 (17) — Upchecked for showing so many wonderfully cheesy SF movies, but downchecked for really just being a comedy riff.

STARTING TO GET SERIOUS

28. Sliders (18) — Imaginative, but the concept wore thin after a while.

27. Quantum Leap (21) — Better than its first cousin Sliders if only because the consequences were of such import and the characterizations were such a challenge. Arguably as much fantasy as thinly veiled SF.

26. The X-Files (02) — It was … okay. Influential. Dearly loved by zillions. But I never really got hooked by it.

25. Stargate SG-1 (14) — I was never a big fan of any of the Stargate iterations. Not sure why. But impressive in overall accomplishment.

24. Space: 1999 (48) — I remember this as the first satisfying SF show after the original Star Trek went off the air. The FX/model work was exquisite. It was hampered S.1 by opaque British plots, and S.2 by dumbing down too far from S.1.

23. Battlestar Galactica [1978] (30) — Incredibly hokey, but spectacular beyond its budget. Some plots were deeper than others.

22. Dollhouse (42) — Possibly ranked higher than it should be here, because while I never quite got hooked, I could tell it had a lot of strings below the surface that I wasn't giving it a chance to show.

21. Space: Above and Beyond (43) — As close as we'll ever get to a Starship Troopers TV show. I liked it.

20. Star Trek: Voyager (32) — Decent Star Trek fare, hampered by an unwillingness to truly embrace the inevitable change and problems of isolation, division, and deferred maintenance.

19. Max Headroom (25) — I am afraid of rewatching this for fear that the zany fun and interesting concepts I remember will turn out to be threadbare.

18. Alien Nation (33) — Like much good TV SF, this tackled (well) contemporary issues (mostly about racism) that would have been too controversial outside of the SF realm.

17. Torchwood (23) — Sometimes too tempted to go over the top, and with an ensemble that the writers never quite knew what to do with, this is still good, gritty, high concept SF (overlapping to fantasy).

16. Fringe (09) — I never became a fan, despite being a serious watcher for at least the first season.

TOP DOGS

15. The Prisoner (07) — While suffering from British too-cleverness (and star/producer indulgence) at times, it's still gripping in making the viewer want to figure out what the hell is going on.

14. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (24) — A great example of successfully (for my taste) grabbing a movie concept and running with it for TV. Well done.

13. Cowboy Bebop (35) — Too cool for school, between the music, the action, the dialog.

12. Futurama (29) — Ranked this high if only because of their willingness to use very single SF trope in the book — multiple times — and do it with humor.

11. Neon Genesis Evangelion (08) — High concept that sometimes gets too high for comprehensibility, it's still a gorgeous (and frightening) Giant Robots vs Aliens anime with eleventy-dozen layers beneath it, from religion to child abuse to alcoholism to identity.

10. The Twilight Zone (05) — Endlessly rewatchable and entertaining, its SF elements get washed away by fantasy too many times, and too many of the Serling and Matheson plots were simply setups for (usually great) plot zingers.

09. Doctor Who (01) — The face of SF for many, and laudable for its longevity and the loyalty of its fans — but, again, too much of it is more properly fantasy, and the uneven writing over the decades does not for great SF make. I watch every episode, but I'm trying to be realistic here.

08. Star Trek: The Next Generation (03) — A remarkable rebirth of a franchise, with a long run, a decent number of great eps, and a large number of not-so-great ones.

07. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (16) — For my money, a better show than its TNG big brother, especially early days when they were diving into the characters and the religion / politics of Bajor, less into the Dominion War in its later episodes. That said, its serial elements put it a tick above TNG.

06. Star Trek: The Original Series (06) — A remarkably seminal show in its influence on TV SF for the decades since. Riddled with weaknesses that its cultural gestalt has overcome.

05. The Outer Limits (10) — With very few exceptions, this classic anthology show was hard SF, written by some great talent (and acted by some remarkable talent), hampered at time by budget limits, but hitting major literary themes and SF tropes in a remarkable fashion. This show (in rerun) solidified my love of SF.

04. _Battlestar Galactica [2004] (04) — A gripping tale of survival and moral compromise, in the face of aliens who look just like us … those were the high points of BSG. The further they drifted away from that (e.g., the further they explored Cylon society), the weaker the show got. And, of course, I truly despise the last couple of episodes concluding the series. Still, with those exceptions, it's a remarkable work.

03. Farscape (22) — One never quite knew where this show was going (that seems to have included the writers), but that didn't hamper the wonders, fun, drama, and imagination of this ensemble explorers-on-the-run show. I just enjoyed it so much, it needed to rank this high.

02. Babylon 5 (19) — Joe Straczynski didn't invent serial TV, but he made it legit, and epic (despite near-disasters by networks and actors alike). Rocky acting early on, and mangled plot points toward the end, it still holds a major place in my heart as a five-year long coherent SF novel, delving into everything from high concept battles between not-really-good vs not-truly-evil, to human weakness and prejudice, including some remarkable character evolutions.

01. Firefly (11) — Yeah, I'm one of those people. Deep-threaded plots and hidden backstories, a delightful mixing of the SF and Western tropes, a splendid set of actors, a roster of episodes where the great far outweigh the weak, and … well, the biggest criticism I can make of the show is that it was cut off way too soon to determine if it would all pay off. I'll assume it did, and just wait for the opportunity to buy the 5-season set when we finally get those portals to parallel worlds working …

And some arguably as-good shows that didn't make the list:

Wild Wild West (of course it's science fiction)
Andromeda
Fantastic Journey
Otherworld
Greatest American Hero
UFO
The Flash [1990]
Misfits of Science
The Invaders
Robotech

I do give, again, kudos to the writers of the original list for leaving off anything within the past five years. Not only would that add a large number of prospects, but it's really hard to judge such things so close to them.

 

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The 50 Greatest Sci-Fi TV Shows (kinda-sorta more-or-less)

A few caveats on the Popular Mechanics list:

1. I suspect this list would look a lot different in, say, five years. We are currently going through a rich time in SF genre TV, and what will turn out to be great and what will turn out to be a flash in the pan and forgotten is very difficult from up close. That said, kudos for not including anything very recent.

2. With a list of 50 you would think you can probably hit nearly everything that most people would consider "great" at first thought. But a lot here is … um … nostalgic at best (Logan's Run? Really? And not Fantastic Journey?)

3. The list is definitely tilted to the US, with a due nod to some UK greats (though I'd tout UFO over Space: 1999).

4. The inclusion of two anime here breaks the entire list, since if we're to allow that genre there are a nigh-infinite number of "greats".

Still, a fun nostaglic look, regardless of the "accuracy."




The 50 Greatest Sci-Fi TV Shows Ever
Get ready for a lot of binge-watching.

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"His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking"

Realistically depicting space stuff on TV is difficult. We are all, like Khan, trapped in a surface-dweller's 2-D perspective.

(h/t +DeAnna Knippling; original by Dave Kellett at http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/150423.html)

 

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New "Star Wars" lands at both Orlando and Anaheim Disney parks

This has me so much more excited than the whole Avatar felgercarb. I want to go to this now.

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Captain's Log

Given the nature and circumstances of some of them, I'm pretty darn sure it's just a voice in your head, Jim.

Originally shared by +taiowa:

Ha!

 

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RIP, Grace Lee Whitney

Yeoman Janice Rand never quite worked in Star Trek, as it evolved in the original series, but that's at least as much the fault of Roddenberry and the writers as any serious fault of Whitney's.

That said, she was part of the family, and it's sad to see her passing. Her desire to be known for her alcohol recovery — as an inspiration for others — is worth noting.

Thank you, Yeoman. Carry on.

http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/grace-lee-whitney-yeoman-rand-original-star-trek-dies-n353001
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/grace-lee-whitney-dead-star-793031
http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2015/05/03/star-trek-grace-lee-whitney-died

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The Fantastic 80s

A lot of Sturgeon's Law here, but some amazing classics (across the breadth of what qualifies as "fantasy"). In addition to the ones Harold Chester mentions, Ladyhawke and Baron Munchhausen are at the top of my list.

Originally shared by +Harold Chester:

Some great movies, including The Princess Bride, Time Bandits and Big Trouble in Little China.




The 80’s, Where Fantasy thrived.
The Internet’s visual storytelling community. Explore, share, and discuss the best visual stories the Internet has to offer.

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Is a new Star Trek TV series in the offing for the 50th (!) anniversary?

I think the described "Star Trek: Federation" series sounds like a great idea. It's removed from the past TV series in much the way that TNG was from TOS, but it also resonates well with the current zeitgeist: the idea that the glory days might be behind us and we've gotten a bit too fat and happy … and that a threat has to force us to live up to our past heroes (and avoid looking to hard into the abyss ourselves) — yeah, that could resonate with at least some of us here in the US, at least.

(h/t +J. Steven York)




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This year marks ten years since Star Trek: Enterprise went off the air, and ever since, fans have been wondering when a new Star Trek series would come back to television. Sure, the J.J. Abrams movies have been successful, but the Trek movies always seemed like something extra, the icing on the cake for Trekkers, but not the cake itself. The cake is Star Trek as a regular, ongoing television series. And with the franchises’ 50th Anniversary next …

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The Modern World of … Tomorrow!

Congrats for the award, Tom Tomorrow.

Originally shared by +Don Denesiuk:

TMW rocks.

http://thismodernworld.com/

" February 27, 2015
Tom Tomorrow:
Star Trek vs. the Internet
This cartoon won a silver medal from the Society of Illustrators yesterday, which is both a huge honor and now somewhat bittersweet. Rest in peace, Mr. Nimoy. "

 

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Live long and prosper, eh?

To heck with the (admittedly polite) request that people stop making the figure on Canadian $5 look like Spock. I think it's cool.

Originally shared by +Rick Gary:




‘Star Trek’ fans told to stop ‘Spocking’ Canadian $5 bill | Entertainment | Toronto Sun
Bank of Canada executives have urged Star Trek fans to stop a campaign to deface currency as a tribute to late actor Leonard Nimoy. A drive was launched in the aftermath of Nimoy’s death on Friday to ink the features of his most famous character, Star Trek’s Mr. Spock, on five dollar bills …

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Emotional moments from SF TV

A cool article/video if only because it includes some (very justifiable) bits of #Babylon5 in the mix (along with BSG, TNG, and X-Files).

YMMV, of course.




Video: Ars picks ten emotional moments from our favorite sci-fi TV shows
Some truly great character bits from some truly great television episodes.

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RIP, Leonard Nimoy

Thank you, sir, for your performances as Spock (and so many others, but we know what you'll be remembered for). You could be deadly serious. Or you could sing about Bilbo Baggins. In both instances, you brought joy and entertainment into my life.




Leonard Nimoy, Mr. Spock On ‘Star Trek,’ Dies At 83
The cause was end-stage chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, his wife, Susan Bay Nimoy, told The New York Times.

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Tribbles DO NOT WANT!

NEED MOAR WHIT BISSELL!

Originally shared by +Les Jenkins:

This is awesome.




The Trouble With Tribbles: Classic Star Trek in LOLtrek GIF form
USS Enterprise, we haz a problem.

A GIF made from this classic internet meme from 2007, which was in turn a reinterpretation in LOLCAT form of this Star Trek episode, one of the greatest of all time. (Thanks, BW Jones!)

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The Guide to (Many) Star Trek Uniforms

Actually, it's a pretty cool infographic, even if it leaves out some of the later TNG outfits, as well as the Captain Pike era and the first movie outfits. There are further notes at the source page (http://www.costumesupercenter.com/startrekuniform.html).

Does anyone know, by the way, why the colors were shifted between the Kirk era and TNG era, such that command yellow became command red, and operations red became operations yellow? (Of course someone knows — but I'd like to know.)




See Starfleet’s Fashion Evolution With This Guide To Star Trek Uniforms
Getting your Starfleet uniform ready for Halloween? Make sure your get the details right with this visual guide to Trek uniforms. I’ve never seen them all laid out together like this — pretty cool!

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RT @georgewiman: In #StarTrekT…

RT @georgewiman: In #StarTrekTOS I just realized agen Gary Seven’s pen is basically a sonic screwdriver Were there Doctor Who fans on write…

Star Trek and the Curse of the Jointly Held Rights

I had no idea that there had been rumors of a Netflix-based "Star Trek" series — but this article does have some interesting / disturbing nuggets about how the Star Trek IP is held by both CBS and Viacom, after they split up in 2006 — and the two companies apparently do not get along together very well.  Which bodes ill for any new Star Trek (TV) stuff any time soon.

Reshared post from +The Mary Sue

Warp 5 at least, come on.

What’s The Hold-Up On That Netflix Original Star Trek Series? | The Mary Sue
Earlier this month Larry Nemecek disappointed many of us by debunking a rumor that Netflix and CBS were in talks to produce a new Star Trek series. Sigh. But it

It's not over until the Buff Khan sings!

For those of you who have always thought Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan was, somehow, operatic …

(h/t +Curt Thompson)

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Badass.

To Boldly Wander Where No Pixels Have Wandered Before

A fun little simulator to let you walk Data around the Enterprise D. Cute, and, yes, a heck of a time suck.

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You’re going to spend a lot of your weekend wasting time on Pixeltrek.com, maneuvering a LEGO-like Data around a pixelated Enterprise-D. Seriously, it’s going to be a massive timesuck. But its best moment is providing us with a look at the bridge’s bathroom.

The Error of Refusing to Accept Your Error

In the classic "Star Trek" episode "The Changeling," the Enterprise is faced with Nomad, a robotic probe that is out to destroy all flawed beings and has the firepower to do it. Kirk eventually wins by showing Nomad that it has made a mistake, too, at which point it blows itself up (http://youtu.be/3ml2_FkNR90?t=44m16s).  (He does much the same to the computer Landru in "Return of the Archons," and the M5 in "The Ultimate Computer" — when you have schtick that works, stick to it).

People are afraid of making mistakes. Especially important people. Especially important people who have built a reputation on never making mistakes.  Healthy ones respond to this fear with humility, acceptance of imperfection, seeking forgiveness, and moving on. "Go and sin no more," as Jesus put it.

And then you have folks who don't.

The attached Fred Clark story tees off another fine story here (http://www.religiondispatches.org/books/sexandgender/7923/the_story_behind_the_catholic_church_s_stunning_reversal_on_contraception/) on how the Catholic Church in the early 60s was on the verge of formally okaying the use of modern birth control methods. A stacked panel put together by John XXIII (stacked against changing church policy) ended up coming out strongly in favor of it.  Paul VI … discarded their decision, and went with a minority report that led to his 1968 Humanae Vitae, which basically said sex is for procreation, and removing that linkage is wrong (and which came out only a couple of years after Kirk demonstrated on multiple occasions the dangers of not being able to admit and deal with your mistakes).

Clark looks in more detail at that Minority Report, leading to the headline below. I wouldn't call it stupid as much as bull-headed.  While the theology can be argued about, the report's writers boiled things down like this:

1. The Church cannot change its policy because the Church is never wrong. That's why it's the Church, after all, instituted by God and therefore obviously always correct (or at least correct in this case).

2. The Church cannot be wrong because then we'll have condemned folks to Hell in error, and that is unthinkable. Since the Church feels has been given the authority to reward or punish (Matthew 16:13-19), if they change their mind on something it has huge, and rather awful, implications.  That's too painful to admit (I call it their Luke Skywalker moment http://youtu.be/BwvnRneMHiY?t=1m52s)

3. The Church cannot change its policy, admitting it was wrong, because then people would begin to doubt the Church's moral authority. Aha! Even a charitable reading can only be interpreted as "We have to stick with a lie because otherwise they won't believe us when we try to tell them a truth later."

The Church (or at least the writers of the Minority Report) set things up for a massive failure in this, just like with Nomad. Error is impossible. Even if it were possible, it would be horrible to contemplate. Even if it were contemplated, it would be too dangerous to admit.

Institutions, individuals, or robots that take that path, eventually blow up.

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The Stupidest Thing I Have Ever Read

The ship wocked and wolled!

Well, that's how Tweetie Bird said it.

The directors on the original "Star Trek" were not always very diligent at how they had people get knocked around the bridge when the ship was hit by an impact.

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Stabilized Star Trek Shot