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Oregon considers its automatic voter registration a "phenomenal success"

Well, yeah, but only if you consider increased voter turn-out, and an electorate that's "less urban … less wealthy … much more diverse" to be good things. I do, but clearly there are some people who don't.




Oregon governor calls automatic voter registration a ‘phenomenal success’ – POLITICO

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17 thoughts on “Oregon considers its automatic voter registration a "phenomenal success"”

  1. I think the results matter. North Carolina, Texas, and California have an issue of registering people ineligible to vote. Just in Orange County there were 300k inactive voters on the voter rolls. There were also over 100k people registered to vote in each of those three states that were ineligible. If the managed not to do that while increasing rural voters that's pretty good. May mean Oregon turns red.

  2. +Kevin Smith "Inactive voters" in Orange County have nothing to do with people ineligible to vote. [https://www.ocvote.com/registration/what-are-inactive-voters/]

    And, at least in Texas, the "100k ineligible voters" number appears to have been shoddily compiled and exaggerated. [https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-state-officials-suggest-report-of-95k-ineligible-voters-may-have-been-dramatically-overstated]
    https://www.ocvote.com/registration/what-are-inactive-voters/

  3. When voters aren't "registered automatically", how is it done and why? I presume the electoral roll is already known, so what does the "registration" process actually add?

    Asking for a friend that just goes to vote without any of that hassle and claims so far it has "just worked".

  4. +Per Siden In most states, one has to formally register. Only those who register are considered members of the "electoral roll."

    Under federal law, such registration can be made an automatic part of applying for a drivers license. A number of states that prefer to have fewer people registered to vote (based on the ideological bent of the politicians in power) make it more difficult.

  5. +Kevin Smith you're living in a fantasy world. This pretty nice. How's it feel to be a white Hotep? Do they give out cool leather wrist bands at your goofy Viking church. Also you forgot to put rational in front of your statement, isn't that what dorks with pony-tails that believe in voter fraud do?

  6. +Eric Walker
    There are hundreds of cases of voter fraud in the US. Most of them are people voting who are ineligible. They also have to have a re-election in North Carolina due to the mix up with automatic voter registration.
    It's impossible to prove that there is voter fraud right now in California as attempts to get information on voter fraud are blocked.
    On the Texas case, they showed that 100k people were registered to vote who may not be eligible. They didn't find many who voted and were ineligible. That doesn't mean there wasn't an error in the system.
    My point is that these three states had issues of incorrectly registering people to vote and if Oregon didn't have those problems it's a success.

  7. +Per Siden For life. In some states you can petition to get your rights back. Often there’s a fee (I just read in one state it’s $500). And you need to provide documentation to convince some label that you’re a good person. It’s nuts.

    Registration is just a way of seeing if you can legally vote before you show up. You vote and they check you against the registration. At least that’s how it worked when i was in Massachusetts. In Washington state they just mail me my ballot. Why places want to check your identification at voting time I don’t know. Registration is the only time it really matters.

    A lot of fuss about people voting in multiple places is actually them being registered in two places. I moved from MA to WA. For a year I was registered in two states. In theory (if I’d flown cross country on Election Day) I could have voted twice and nobody would have known. But MA sends out yearly mail asking if you still live at the same address. When I didn’t reply, they took me off the registered list.

    Having every state do it differently doesn’t help. Having no national ID also doesn’t help. Having lots of people who can’t get a valid ID without spending time and money they don’t have also doesn’t help. It’s a mess.

  8. +Kevin Smith Oh my God, hundreds of cases!?

    Please note that the re-running of the election in North Carolina has nothing to with any "the mix up with automatic voter registration" — it has to do with Republican operatives kindly offering to deliver ballots for NC citizens, then either discarding ballots against the GOP candidate or filling them in for the GOP candidate.

    So, yeah, voter fraud, but not the sort you're talking about.

    'On the Texas case, they showed that 100k people were registered to vote who may not be eligible. They didn't find many who voted and were ineligible. That doesn't mean there wasn't an error in the system.'

    No, they basically asserted that there had been 95k people who were ineligible to vote because of citizenship who were nonetheless registered to vote — only later to retract that number (after the President had tweeted it to the high heavens) when it turned out they were comparing DL records to registration records without actually confirming whether in the (possibly long) interim the individuals had become naturalized.

    'My point is that these three states had issues of incorrectly registering people to vote and if Oregon didn't have those problems it's a success.'

    You're asserting a significant systematic problem in voter registration without actually presenting indication that those three states — or Oregon — have actually had such a problem.

  9. +Kevin Smith "Voter fraud" is a non-issue that only far-right hacks are "worried about".

    Actually, they are not worried about it, they just want to pretend it is a problem, so they can instigate voter suppression, an unconstitutional abuse of power.

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