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A polite question to Undecideds or McCain supporters who are using the standard anti-Obama talking point

HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW “WHO BARACK OBAMA IS”? WHAT DO YOU STILL WANT TO KNOW? ARE YOU ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIND OUT? ARE YOU EXPECTING BARACK OBAMA TO PROJECT…

HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW “WHO BARACK OBAMA IS”?

WHAT DO YOU STILL WANT TO KNOW?

ARE YOU ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIND OUT?

ARE YOU EXPECTING BARACK OBAMA TO PROJECT THE INFORMATION STRAIGHT INTO YOUR BRAIN?

ARE YOU EXPECTING GOD TO SUDDENLY APPEAR AND HAND YOU A PERSONNEL FILE TO TELL YOU WHO BARACK OBAMA IS?

WHO COULD DO WHAT TO SOMEHOW EASE THIS GREAT VACUUM IN YOUR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT BARACK OBAMA?

ARE YOU WAITING FOR THE SITCOM? THE STAGE SHOW? THE MOVIE? THE COMIC BOOK?

Barack Obama has been running for president for a couple of years. He’s given a zillion speeches. He’s written books. He’s given eleventy-dozen speeches about what he believes, about where he’s from, about what he plans to do. HE HAS A WEB PAGE, FERGOSHSAKES!

WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW, FROM WHOM, IN WHAT MODALITY, BEFORE YOU FEEL YOU KNOW “WHO BARACK OBAMA IS”?

That is all.

All politics are local

So I’m slogging off the train at the station. I was toward the back of the masses getting off, as I’d been on the front car after rushing to catch…

So I’m slogging off the train at the station. I was toward the back of the masses getting off, as I’d been on the front car after rushing to catch it in the first place.

After getting off the platform, I saw there was some guy handing out stuff by the elevators. A quick second glance betrayed the bright blue and red of campaign literature. So I was clearly curious as to who he was shilling for.

As I got closer, I saw it was fliers for Hank Eng, who’s running as a Democrat to be our local US Rep.

The Eng story is an interesting one. I’ve mentioned more than once that this is heartland Red suburbia around here. Our former state senator was John Andrews, former GOP senate majority leader. And our Representative, until this election, has been Tom Tancredo, former fringe presidential candidate and anti-immigrant zealot.

This has been such a secure GOP seat that when Mike Coffman — our present Colorado secretary of state (who, conveniently, oversees elections) — declared his intent to run for CO-06, the Dems just sort of wrote the seat off, as they usually do.

Enter Hank Eng. Eng’s an interesting fellow. His campaign has been pretty low-key — no bluster, no wild publicity stunts or wedge issues. He’s talked mostly about character and integrity, though he has policies to back that up.

He started the campaign with a shoestring budget, but has managed — maybe, perhaps, depending on whose polling you believe — to pull within serious striking range of Coffman, who’s been hurt both by the state shifting Blue and by various problems with the voting process and voter purges. Heaven knows I’ve seen a lot more Eng signs in peoples’ yards than Coffman ones.

I was inspired enough to actually go out last night and donate to Eng’s campaign for the last few days of the campaign. It’s a bit of a forlorn hope, but it felt good.

So I went over toward the guy handing out Eng literature, looked up —

— and it was, in fact, Hank Eng.

I shook his hand, told him I’d just donated, and wished him the best of luck. He thanked me, assured me that “Together we can make it happen,” and I moved on.

So maybe I didn’t make it to the big Obama rally in Denver on Sunday, but maybe I got to shake the hand of my next Representative. I hope so.

Local politics are cool.

 

Guess I’m going to Hell, then

Of course, Jesus suggested that we judge not, lest we be judged. He also indicated more than once that second-guessing someone else’s relationship with God was, um, ill-advised. Nonetheless, some…

Of course, Jesus suggested that we judge not, lest we be judged. He also indicated more than once that second-guessing someone else’s relationship with God was, um, ill-advised.

Nonetheless, some folks on the Religious Right show no qualms about predicting who’s casting a one-way vote for the Fiery Furnace. Like Jane Porter:

To all those who name the name of Christ who plan to willfully disobey Him by voting for Obama, take warning. Not only is our nation in grave danger, according to the Word of God, so are you.

Wow. I’ve read the New Testament through several times, and I can’t say I remember a warning that God calls on us to vote against Obama.

In one week, America will make a choice. And to those who call themselves “Christian” who are planning on voting for Barack Obama, put down the Obama talking points and read God’s voter guide before you go to the polls.

Wait — I know that voting guide. It talks about loving neighbors, feeding the poor, clothing the naked, visiting the prisoner, supporting the widows and orphans. Wait — is that the wrong guide?

Ah, I do love the ol’ “I know who’s a real ‘Christian’ and who’s not” routine. It usually ends up being associated with stonings and witch burnings.

The particular theological gist of the article is that (a) Obama is not anti-abortion (thus a vote for him, no matter what the reason, is a vote for baby-killing (which, in terms of abortion, is apparently worse than children being killed by bears or righteous warriors sent by God), (b) Obama isn’t rabidly anti-gay (as everyone knows God is), and (c) Obama is a socialist (it’s never quite clear how this ties into the Bible, especially given Jesus’ message about giving to the poor, but I’m sure my interpretation is faulty because I am, after all, voting for Obama). Thus, Obama is inutterably anti-Biblical, anti-God, and anyone who casts a vote for him ought just as well carve the Mark of the Beast (a backwards “B”) on their cheek and get ready for some Chick tract afterworld retribution on their behind.

Obey Him in the voting booth and out of it. If not, do us all a favor and quit calling yourself a Christian.

And some Christians wonder why religious affiliation is flat or declining.

UPDATE: Of course, if you want the above to look relatively calm, considered, and sane, check this out by contrast.

Bringing what sits under rocks into the light

Interesting story on All Things Considered tonight about how the Obama candidacy and its impending success are dragging the real racists out of the rural backwaters and gangland obscurity….

Interesting story on All Things Considered tonight about how the Obama candidacy and its impending success are dragging the real racists out of the rural backwaters and gangland obscurity. Police are seeing an upswing in hate crimes, both trivial (defacing Obama posters) and not.

Part of the problem is that Obama is playing into the neo-Nazi and white supremacist narrative, said Brian Levin, who studies hate and extremism at California State University, San Bernardino. What the groups were saying — “Jews and blacks coming out of the urban areas are going to take over this white nation of ours” — has occurred, he said.

You only have to look to the Internet to see how white supremacist leaders such as David Duke are using Obama to rally their troops. Duke has called Obama a “visual aid for hate groups.” He says an Obama presidency would provide indisputable proof that whites have lost control of America. “This is a cultural and racial battlefront,” said Levin. “Barack Obama is symbol No. 1 of the worst the future has to offer.”

 

Ironically, the white supremacists are actually divided on Obama’s candidacy. Some, for obvious reasons, refuse to vote for him. Others think that a vote for Obama is a positive step toward the impending “race war” due to wrack the country (cf. folks who support Israel as a step toward the End Times).

Me? I think the churning and rising of this sort of overt racism is a positive thing. An Obama presidency forces America to face what remains of racism in our psyche, not just in the reprehensible form of the David Dukes of this world, but in more subtle ways. That can only be a good thing, and if the roaches and other slimy critter pour out from under the rocks in the face of Obama in the White House, that will help us deny that they still live among us, or how their hatred has subtle echoes in our own cultural hearts.

The other thing it will do, directly opposite of riling up the racists, is demonstrate to the vast majority who might be a bit leery, a scosh apprehensive, even if they don’t even recognize where that anxiety is coming from, that a black man as President, once you’ve seen it, isn’t all that scary. The best way to combat racism, overt and subtle, is, essentially, to integrate, to let the Other become part of your everyday world. Once you see that a black man on TV every night isn’t something to be scared of, all the rants of the David Dukes become all that much more ridiculous.

(In parallel, I expect that as gays become more openly integrated into society — see California, of course, but also other states where civil unions and even gay marriage have been made legal, and, yet, the societal sky hasn’t fallen and civilization hasn’t turned into some great homosexual debauch — the fear of the unknown will, because it becomes known, diminish, and the doom-saying predictions of the Dobsons of the world that things like California’s Amendment 8 are the Last Straight Hope to protect our Great Christian Nation will be seen as goofy as people worrying about the dire and apocalyptic effects of giving women the right to vote.)

So even though the NPR story tends to get a bit scarifying at times, nearly blaming Obama for riling up all those racists, I think it’s a good thing that the white-first KKK a and neo-Nazi types are creeping out of the woodwork again. Sometimes you just have to turn over some rocks to see what comes scurrying out. Wearing heavy-soled boots, and not being afraid to use them in the circumstance, is highly advised.

The Re(re(re))making of McCain

If the full New York Times magazine cover story “John McCain – The Making (and Remaking and Remaking) of the Candidate” is as fascinating as the NPR Fresh Air…

If the full New York Times magazine cover story “John McCain – The Making (and Remaking and Remaking) of the Candidate” is as fascinating as the NPR Fresh Air interview with the author, Robert Draper, it’s must-read of the inside moves, shifts, and re(re(re))narratives woven by the McCain campaign. Fascinating stuff, and not always the answers that either side has assumed.

Electoral college watch

A week later (and a week before The Big Day), here we are. (+ means an increase, * means unchanged, – means a decrease) Site Obama McCain Toss-Up ElectionProjection.com  375 + 163 -…

A week later (and a week before The Big Day), here we are. (+ means an increase, * means unchanged, – means a decrease)

Site Obama McCain Toss-Up

ElectionProjection.com 

375 +

163 –

Electoral-vote.com

364 *

157 –

17 +

FiveThirtyEight.com

351 +

187 –

Pollster.com

306 +

142 –

90 –

270ToWin.com

277 *

163 *

98 *

Hedgehog Report

364 +

174 –

FederalReview.com

338 *

166 *

34 *

3 Blue Dudes

306 –

157 –

75 +

Electoral Scoreboard

367 *

171 *

 

 

Obama maintains his significant (if electoral-magnified) lead and lock in all the polls and results. Some sites haven’t shifted much in the last week; most of the others have increased Obama’s lead, but nobody has shown McCain gaining any ground, save in increasing some undecided tallies.

The question, of course, is how accurate this is. I think there is nearly zero chance that McCain could actually win, but the above numbers could be volatile for any number of reasons — the oft-touted Bradley effect, dirty tricks and voter suppression, and lazy Democratic voter turn-out in the face of a “landslide” could all drop the Obama numbers from a few key states flipping back. On the other hand, depressed GOP turn-out and the momentum of “winning” could push Obama up higher, though not, I suspect, over 400 as some have suggested.

Over in the other races, here’s how things are looking (the top number is the current split; the +/*/- refers to the Democrat numbers):

Site

Senate
(49-49)
 

House
(233-199)
Govs
(28-22)

ElectionProjection.com 

57-41 *

258-177 +

28-22 –
Electoral-vote.com

59-41 +

252-182 –

 

FiveThirtyEight.com

57-41 *

 

Pollster.com

55-38 *

246-166 *

27-21 *

3 Blue Dudes

53-38

 

 

Electoral Scoreboard

53-39 *

 

 

 

It doesn’t seem likely that the Dems will get their filibuster-proof Senate. That may be a good thing, for folks who like a bit of friction in their government. If the GOP uses that slender hold to restrain the wildest of the Democratic majority’s wish lists, that’s all fine and good. If they use it to try and block anything significant, there may be trouble. (I wonder how the whole “going nuclear” thing will play this coming Congress — I lot different, I suspect, from when the GOP were in near-domination.) 

We’ll see in a week.

A “Hail Sarah” Pass

McCain on Face the Nation, with a generally GOP-friendly Tom Brokaw, who keeps raising how pretty much everyone in America thinks Sarah Pallin was about the worst and least-qualified choice…

McCain on Face the Nation, with a generally GOP-friendly Tom Brokaw, who keeps raising how pretty much everyone in America thinks Sarah Pallin was about the worst and least-qualified choice he could have made:

 

The man is grinning so forcibly that I expect his face to crack off. He’s having a hard time stringing more than two-thirds of a Palin talking point together. He very clearly is sorely torqued by having his nose rubbed in the decision, and it’s all he can do to keep from lunging across the table and throttling Brokaw.

You know, there are times when a politician has to make an unpopular decision. something that the public simply doesn’t understand. Heck, Kennedy’s Profiles in Courage is full of ’em.  At some point, when people tell you for the hundredth time that you made an egregious error that you don’t disagree with, if you’re not going to cave, there really is only one way to respond: “Well, that was my decision and I stick by it. Clearly some people disagree, but if they trust me, they should trust this choice. If not, there’s nothing I can do to convince them.” 

What you don’t keep trying to do is mouth the same talking points, hoping that this time, for whatever reason, they’ll stick. That’s a sign of inflexibility, of arrogance, of bad political instinct. It’s trying the same thing over and over again, hoping the results will be different, which is the definition of insanity.

She has more executive experience than Sen. Biden and Sen. Obama, together. She took on the governor of her own party because she had seen what she’s thought was corruption. She’s been a mayor. She has 24,000 people underneath her. Her husband is a, uh, works the third shift on the oil who…in…facilities in the North Slope. He’s a, ah… the-they have a won…she has executive experience…

This country has had eight years of a president who cannot admit he was wrong. Do we need another four?

(via ETEV and Les)

Yes on 8 threatens to “out” No on 8 donors

Not necessarily “out” them as homosexual (since there are plenty of straight supporters of the No on 8 campaign in California), but “out” them to customers, who would then presumably…

Not necessarily “out” them as homosexual (since there are plenty of straight supporters of the No on 8 campaign in California), but “out” them to customers, who would then presumably shun the Godless Commie Marriage-Hating Faggot-Loving businesses who dared speak up for marriage equality.

The letters being received start off nicely enough:

Equality California is advertising on its website that it has received a contribution of at least $10,000 from you. […] We are sure that you would want to review the way that they are using Abbott & Associates’ name, since many more of your clients support traditional marriage than support same sex marriage. A copy of an advertising page from Equality California’s website is enclosed for your information.

 

That’s rather nice of them — offering the opportunity for someone to weasel away from what they’ve done on the pretense that it’s Equality California that’s either lying or betraying the Deep Dark Secret that the contributor gave them money. Note the implicit implication that obviously nobody would openly give to Equality California, or wouldn’t be appalled that their donation had been made public by EC

They offer then to help the contributor make up for “this error.”

We respectfully request that Abbott & Associates withdraw its support of Equality California. Make a donation of a like amount to ProtectMarriage.com which will help us correct this error and restore Traditioal Marriage. A donation form is enclosed. We will be most grateful and will advertise on our website Abbott & Associates’ generous contribution.

 

Isn’t that nice of them? “Back off of your earlier commitment, fork over some dough, and we’ll tell everyone that you’re holy and righteous.”

Then the kid gloves come off. (Emphasis below mine.)

Were you to elect not to donate comparably, it would be a clear indication that you are in opposition to traditional marriage. You would leave us no other reasonable assumption. The names of any companies and organizations that choose not to donate in like manner to ProtectMarriage.com but have given to Equality California will be published. It is only fair for Proposition 8 supporters to know which companies and organizations oppose traditional marriage.

 

Jeez, where does one start? Well, for starters, there’s the false dichotomy. I love and support traditional marriage. I think the dedicated commitment of love before society (and, for those who wish that sort of thing, God) is a truly wonderful thing. So wonderful and powerful and transformative and life-giving that I think it should be open to gay couples, too. I really don’t see the conflict. Are they being disingenuous or simply uncomprehending about that standpoint?

Secondly, unless EC has been telling people that their donations will be Ultra-Top Secret, isn’t ProtectMarriage.com missing the point that these folks have already made their support visible to the public?

No, they’re not missing the point. I’m sure any donor knew they were taking the potential risk of their name being published on some boycott black-list by pro-8 folks. The ProtectMarriage folks could have just gone ahead and done that — but given that there was a chance, just a chance, of getting someone to pony up some money (plus demonstrate some corporate “conversion therap”), it was worth engaging in this extortion-with-sadness routine.

We will contact you shortly to discuss your contribution sincerely hoping to receive your positive response.

 

“Nice reputation ya got here. Be a shame if somet’in’ were t’happen to it.

The Executive Committee of ProtectMarriage.com and the millions of Californians supporting Proposition 8 thank you for your thoughtful consideration of this request.

“Yeah, you better be thinking about those millions of Californians before we blacklist you.”

Disgusting. And these are the purported upholders of all that is good and holy and right?

If you want to help get yourself on a blacklist (and what good freedom-loving sort wouldn’t?), visit www.noonprop8.com.

***Dave Does the Election – Staying Up Late on a Thursday Edition

I need to make this quick, so a bit more bullety, a bit less paragraphic. MCCAIN Senator, I’m shocked! How could you endorse redistribution of wealth like that? Oh, wait,…

I need to make this quick, so a bit more bullety, a bit less paragraphic.

MCCAIN

  1. Senator, I’m shocked! How could you endorse redistribution of wealth like that? Oh, wait, that was back in 2000. Hmmmm … but would this count as an issue you’ve flip-flopped on? Say it ain’t so, John.
  2. Remember, when terrorists endorse McCain, it’s a trick, but when they endorse Obama, it’s for real. Right.
  3. Can John McCain still win? “Anything’s possible” — but how precisely can he go about it?

PALIN

  1. The NeedlessMarkupGate Scandal continues to dog poor Gov. Palin. Since the clothing was a gift from the RNC to her family, some people are wondering when she’ll be paying the $50K in gift taxes she’ll owe on it. Some other people are surprised that McCain is wholeheartedly supporting her for it, given that five years ago he was supporting legislation to forbid just that sort of thing (something about how having campaigns pay for clothing and other personal items would seriously “erode public confidence”).  On the other hand, Fox News is all over how unfair it is for the media to dwell on personal grooming expenses of candidates.
  2. Maybe Palin can pay back the GOP for some of those dresses by suing SNL for slander, as Newt Gingrich suggests she do. Yeah, great idea there, Newt. (Hey, weren’t you a big tort reform guy once upon a time?)
  3. Is Palin being stupid or disingenuous here, first saying she won’t call Obama a socialist, then talking about how Obama’s policy proposals are all socialist? Hmmmm, maybe both.
  4. A tip to the Governor: when you (incorrectly) rag on an opponent about his being willing to sit down with terrorists and dictators “without preconditions,” you might want to actually have figured out what preconditions you yourself would insist upon. D’oh!
  5. Okay, it’s a cheap shot but a funny one.

OBAMA

  1. Why are Republicans voting for Obama? Just listen.
  2. Why is Obama winning? Steady temperment and thoughtful decision-making. What novel attributes for a president!
  3. Unlike some candidates, the Obama family isn’t dropping $150K for a wardrobe.
  4. This picture was from earlier this summer, when Obama visited Hawaii and threw a lei into the ocean where his mother’s ashes were scattered. Very quietly touching.
  5. Mad props to Ron Howard (et al.) for this little film and being willing to, um, humiliate himself in order to get his message of support for the Obama campaign out.

OTHER RACES

  1. Rep. Bachmann says she doesn’t actually think Obama is anti-American, really, at least not to speak of — she just got tricked into saying it by a nasssssty interviewer. Sorry, Ma’am, Gov. Palin already used that excuse. Of course, Bachmann is also telling the press one thing, and telling her far-right audiences (whom she’s hitting up for money, since the GOP’s abandoned her) something quite different.
  2. Rep. Hayes, who I featured the other day first saying “liberals hate America” and then his campaign saying he flatly denied saying that, now denies denying that he said it. Are you keeping up here? But don’t worry, Rep. Hayes, evidently calling liberals “anti-American” is the “in” thing in your crowd.I’d love to see Marilyn Musgrave get retired. Talk about an embarrassment to our state.
  3. I knew Colorado’s Amendment 48 was bad news, but I hadn’t realized Chow heinous it is.
  4. I live in a nice, conservative suburb of Denver, Tom Tancredo Country, one of those places where almost every local contest goes to the (R)s. Yet, astonishingly, Arapahoe County is now considered a swing disctrict! Yow!

THE CAMPAIGN

  1. Who is a Real American? Here are some suggestions of what Americans (at one of them) wants. Sounds like a pretty good list to me.
  2. Election 08 as a Dungeons and Dragons campaign – Kind of goofy, but with some amusing points.
  3. Was a McCain volunteer brutally attacked for her political beliefs? Um, chances look high that it was a hoax. Even Michelle Malkin, God help us, doesn’t believe the story. What’s remarkable (and scary and disgusting) is checking out the linkbacks at the bottom of the Malkin article, most of which are drinking-the-koolaid “See! See the Muslim-thugocracy black-on-white violence inherent in the Obama candidacy! Help! We’re being oppressed” kind of insane crap. I mean, these people really believe that the Obama Campaign is sending black thugs with knives to beat up and intimidate McCain supporters (and the only reason we don’t hear about it is because of a media conspiracy, of course). Yeesh.
  4. Do most Americans love taxes? I think most Americans think taxes are necessary, and even a civic duty. But I don’t think they love them.
  5. The GOP Intellectual Wing who’ve been banished and battered for daring to suggest that Obama might be a better candidate and that the Republican Party has strayed from its core vision, continue to speak out. I must confess to a bit of schadenfreude, but I honestly do wish them well in flushing the fat cats and social conservatives from their party.
  6. Why it’s criitical that people vote.
  7. Why it’s critical not just to beat the Republicans, but to beat them badly.

And so it goes. And so I go … to bed.

“And he thinks taxes are so patriotic you should render all your money … unto the government …”

John McCain doesn’t really “approve this message” — but it sure sounds like it was generated by his campaign …    (via BD and Michael)…

John McCain doesn’t really “approve this message” — but it sure sounds like it was generated by his campaign …

  

(via BD and Michael)

It’s possible to be for without indulging in the against

I picked up Katherine from school and headed off for our semi-regular Wednesday errands: a stop by the comic book store, and picking up a take-and-bake pizza from Papa Murphy’s….

I picked up Katherine from school and headed off for our semi-regular Wednesday errands: a stop by the comic book store, and picking up a take-and-bake pizza from Papa Murphy’s.

“Yay! I saw an Obama-Biden!” she proclaimed from the back seat as we wended through neighborhoods.

“Yay!” I agreed.

“Boo!” she said, as we passed by a house whose lawn was festooned with McCain-Palin and local race GOP banners.

A moment to ponder.

“Y’know,” I said, “I think it’s okay to cheer for my candidate. But I don’t think it’s nice to boo people who support the other person.”

A pause. “Okay.” Another pause. “A bunch of people at school were saying bad things about the people for president that they didn’t like.”

I think for a moment. “It’s a real temptation to say that a candidate you don’t like is stupid, but I think it’s better to cheer for your candidate than to say mean things about the other candidate. It’s okay to say that you disagree with what a candidate says. Or that you don’t think a candidate is the best choice for president. But you shouldn’t be mean to other people.”

It’s tough being partisan in a positive, constructive fashion, or to focus on issues rather than just taking shots at the opposition. I am very painfully aware of that, even as a profoundly Nice Guy. 

My hope is that, whatever political beliefs Katherine develops for herself, she’ll remember that the expression of those beliefs is just as important. We cannot be a society of Us vs. Them, especially when They are only a few percentage points of the populace away from Us. It’s okay — expected, even important — to differ on the issues. But I’m not comfortable with name-calling in the Third Grade, where Katherine is, let alone among adults.

Time passages

Only thirteen days — less than two weeks — until the election? Holy moley ……

Only thirteen days — less than two weeks — until the election? Holy moley …

***Dave Does the Election – Mid-Week Madness!

You would think that Margie being out of town would make it a lot easier to get these things cranked out. *Sigh* Okay … where to begin? Well, first,…

You would think that Margie being out of town would make it a lot easier to get these things cranked out. *Sigh*

Okay … where to begin?

Well, first, perhaps, with a bit of humor. Back in the 60s, Batman was turned into a TV show, and one of the episodes was about an improbable Gotham City mayoral campaign between Batman and the Penguin. It so happens the two candidates had a debate, one that has eerie echoes from today’s campaign rhetoric. I won’t draw a further connection between a short, angry candidate who engages in smear campaigning squaring off against a tall, handsome force for justice and honesty …

Speaking of roles, the whole McCain/Obama “thing” on going after Osama bin Laden if we had him in our “sights” in Pakistan and the Islamabad government wouldn’t give permission to take him out is really kind of screwy on the face of it. I mean, if it were Obama saying that he wouldn’t act except with the permission of the Pakistanis, you just know that every right-wing pundit would be all over his “naivete” and “internationalist” and “surrender-monkeyness” in a heartbeat. Instead, it’s Obama who says he’d go in one way or the other, and McCain reiterating that he’d let Osama bin Laden go free.

Or, maybe not. After all, McCain’s criticized Obama for revealing his true intentions in the matter. We have every reason to believe that McCain is simply giving that answer in pursuit of not torquing off the Pakistanis, choosing instead to torque them off when he goes after OBL and is thus revealed as a liar.

Though if they took him at face value, that might explain why al-Qa’eda is endorsing McCain. (To be fair, I am no more concerned about who al-Qa’eda claims they favor in the presidential race any more than I am interested in the opinions of Fred Phelps or Kim Jong-Il.)

Making folks angry seems to be the forte of the McCain/Palin campaign, and the results have been stunningly clear — even if the inciting messages are occasionally off-kilter (if the only “real pro-Americans” are the ones out in the countryside and in small towns, does that mean the NYC and Pentagon victims of 9/11 aren’t real Americans? Oops!). No matter how you quasi-apologize for it, this sort of divisive rhetoric and flag-waving (or flag-dragging) has probably only frothed up the already-devoted followers, and turned off more and more of the undecided.

And yet, in the face of this, the other day we had something actually positive coming out of the McCain/Palin camp: a group of McCain supporters, both Christian and Muslim, facing down some hate-mongering agitators at a McCain rally. It was actually kind of inspiring — which means, of course, the campaign itself had to screw up the whole moment by, at the last moment, preventing that Muslim campaign organizer from appearing on CNN to talk about it.

Mercifully, all the terrorist fear-mongering seems to be working less and less well. Perhaps it’s because the Internet is changing the information equation, so that when McCain today calls ACORN a threat to democracy, we can see where a few years ago he was calling it “what makes America special” — not to mention learning what a huge passel of distortions the whole ACORN thing is.

Though if McCain wants to talk about voter registration fraud, he might be advised to speak very softly, lest he be hit by echoes bouncing back at him.

No wonder the Obama campaign is assembling the nation’s “largest law firm” to challenge voting irregularities come November.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the McCain ticket, Gov. Palin is still trying to figure out what a VP does (pssst! Sarah! Not even Cheney thought that he “ran” the Senate). She’s also trying to figure out whether the National Review is one of those unfair filtering nassssty media outlets that she keeps railing against.

But what she seems to be spending more time figuring out is … well, what to wear. After all, when the party forks over $150,000 in campaign contributions to buy some nice Saks and Needless-Markup outfits for you and your kinfolk — well, one hopes that’s bought a few years worth of wardrobes. (After all, Sarah, you’ll need something to wear to all those evangelical political action meetings you’ll be a regular at in the coming years.)

Obama, on the other hand continues to garner increasing support and endorsements. Some are sincere, some are opportunistic, but they all add to his momentum. The biggest most recently was Colin Powell, of course, which has led to outrage from the Right (and a few pointed questions from the Left).  The irony is, while right-wing pundits claim it’s all about “race” (as if suddenly noticing that Powell is black, and without explaining why he’s not ever lifted a finger to assist Jackson or Sharpton in their presidential bids), the reality may be that in addition to simply thinking that Obama’s a reasonably good candidate, the wingnuts and social conservatives on the Right who’ve long mistrusted him may have pushed him to it. Wouldn’t that be a neat irony?

Elsewhere, Obama also gathers support from more and more newspapers (including some former Bush-backers in Texas) and more formerly staunch conservatives, even as he draws in dedicated volunteers. Some of that, as in Powell’s case, may be disgust with how the GOP has been handling itself. Some may simply be because the man’s record is simply impressive. Some may be even more simply because he “won’t put on the hat” (gosh, wouldn’t it be nice to have a president who isn’t constantly doing or saying something cringeworthy — not because you necessarily disagree with it, but because it’s just so frelling embarrassing how it’s mangled or miscued). 

Obama, of course, suspended personal campaigning (um, for real, Sen. McCain) in order to go home to Hawaii to visit his failing grandmother, who broke her hip a few weeks back. That particular bit of “family values” and “compassion” didn’t seem to move the charming All-Americans at FOX News or the Free Republic. (“Have you no decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?” Given the nature of the denizens there and their affinity to the person those questions were originally posed to, probably not.)

Despite that, Obama maintains his significant lead in the polls, both popular and, more important, electoral, to a degree that increasingly people are seeing his election as inevitable (or as inevitable as anything else in politics). While an AP poll out today showed Obama and McCain as neck-and-neck, not only is it a huge outlier, but it’s seriously statistically suspect (unless you believe the number of evangelicals voting has doubled since 2004).

So assuming an Obama win — then what happens. Well, a lot of people end up reconsidering their assumptions, both Left and Right. The GOP goes through some hard times — a wilderness period, if you will, wherein (one might hope) the Rovean neo-con theo-con traits of the party will be seared away, to leave a Republican party more in the mold of Eisenhower and Ford than of Nixon and Bush. Hey, in a year when a black man seems likely to become president, perhaps other, stranger dreams can come true …

Whoever wins, they face the the challenge of proving to the world that the American ideals of protecting liberty and a free market have not been shattered by the diplomatic and economic disasters we currently face. I don’t envy either man running for the Oval Office in dealing with that — but I know which one I think stands a better chance of doing so.


 

And a few items that don’t quite fit into the narrative above, but which are worth publishing:

  • Both candidates (McCain especially, but Obama as well) have pursued big money beyond campaign limit by hosting/encouraging joint donations to both their campaign and to national and state party organizations.
  • All that innuendo about illegal foreign contributors to Obama, based on the odd values of many small contributions. Duh, that’s not conversion from foreign currency, that’s informational.
  • The BBC offers a guide to all the ‘Joes’ in the campaign.
  • An Aussie offers an interesting perspective on our voting process. Most of what’s questioned is actually a result of our (sometime good, sometimes bad) federalist system of states rights.
  • Okay, it’s a cheap shot, but a damned funny one: They’re Pinky and the Brain…

And so it goes …

The Internet has changed everything

Yeah, it lets people blather on to a larger audience than they had in the past, but it also means reality can intrude on rhetoric, and fact-checking and audio-video proof…

Yeah, it lets people blather on to a larger audience than they had in the past, but it also means reality can intrude on rhetoric, and fact-checking and audio-video proof can be put out there for everyone to see. For example:

 

Once upon a time, there would be rumors bandied about that someone had said something as asinine as “liberals hate real Americans that work and achieve and believe in God.” But they would have been just rumors, and Rep. Robin Hayes (R-NC) would have, as he did in this case, just issued a categorical denial. And if the mainstream media didn’t roll the film or the audio on the nightly news, it would simply be a he-said-she-said situation.

Now, though, everyone’s recording this stuff, and putting it up on YouTube, and everyone can hear it. And know that Rep. Hayes is (there’s no other way to put this) a liar in making his vehement denial.

Sure, you can mix and edit and screw around with these sorts of things — and we’ll see more of that in future election cycles, too. But the dispersion of the Internet as a way of letting everyone get info out to everyone else removes so many choke points for information, politicians are going to have to really watch what they say, and think not whether it will juice up the audience their addressing, but how it will play to every other audience.

Novel idea, that.

Colorado ballot propositions

I touched on this topic a month back, but I’ve finished going through the ballot proper, and here are my thoughts.   First, a side note: Damn, I am…

I touched on this topic a month back, but I’ve finished going through the ballot proper, and here are my thoughts.


 

First, a side note: Damn, I am tired of the advertising campaigns around these, pro and con. “Amendment 69: Do we really want to pass a law to kick grandmothers out into the street in the cold of winter?” They don’t say, “Amendment 69: It will do A, B, which will lead to C and even grandmothers being forced out of their homes.”

So, for example, the Unholy Triumvirate (one assumes) of 47, 49, and 54 are being advertised against as putting the entire economy at risk, without ever laying out how they get from Point A to Point D. Now, I’m not particularly fond of those amendments, but to call it manipulative and fear-mongering wouldn’t be an exagerration.

Both sides do this, for what it’s worth*. They jump straight to the worst/best-case-scenario as if that were the actual law being passed. Feh. Give me some facts and let me draw the conclusion.

*To be fair, the Yes on 47 flier I have before me is very straightforward about what the amendment is about, even though I disagree about its merits. 


 

I’ll note that, as a general note, I dislike on principle constitutional amendments regarding anything other than profound statements of personal rights or fundamentals of governance. Using it as a way to make ostensibly legislature-proof laws is sloppy and hazardous to our democracy.


Since the last review, the ballot has changed some. Four union-backed Amendments — 53, 55, 56, and 57 — were pulled in exchange for a big chunk o’ change to combat some anti-union measures (47, 49, and 54). Those others will remain on the ballot (too late to remove them), but votes on them will not count.


 

* AMENDMENT 46 – Colorado Civil Rights Initiative – Would prohibit the state from granting preferential treatment to anyone on the basis of race, sex or ethnicity in hiring, education and contracts. Poorly written and , to my mind, premature (albeit in a perfect world it would make great sense, and thus be unnecessary). No. 

* AMENDMENT 47 – Right to work – Would outlaw agreements requiring workers covered by union contracts to pay fees for representation. Again, in a perfect world, “forced-unionism” wouldn’t be necessary. As it is, all those folks professing love and sympathy for the poor workers who have to pay union fees are the sort of folks that unions were designed to address.  Definitely No. 

* AMENDMENT 48 – Definition of person – Would ban abortion by defining personhood as beginning at fertilization. If you want to ban abortion, then be up front and ban it, don’t play with semantics. Definitely No. 

* AMENDMENT 49 – Allowable Government Paycheck Deductions – Would ban governments from taking deductions directly from employee paychecks for any nongovernmental special interest group. Read: union dues. No. 

* AMENDMENT 50 – Limited Gaming in Central City, Black Hawk, and Cripple Creek – Would allow casino towns to vote on whether to increase bet limits to $100 from $5, expand hours of operation and add games. While I’m philosophically inclined to allow it, there’s no convincing argument made that it’s necessary to vote yes.  Probably No. 

* AMENDMENT 51 – Sales tax for disabled services – Would increase the state sales tax (by 2 cents on every $10) to fund services for those with developmental disabilities. I’m certainly in favor of funding services for those with developmental disabilities. A state constitutional amendment for a sales tax increase? Bad way to do it. Probably No.. 

* AMENDMENT 52 – Use of Severance Tax Revenue for Highways – Would allocate more severance tax money to transportation. Instead of water projects? Stupid. No. 

* AMENDMENT 53 – Corporate fraud – Would impose tougher sanctions for fraud committed by businesses, executives. Generally speaking, all for it. Yes. 

* AMENDMENT 54 – Campaign Contributions from Certain Government Contractors – Would bar sole-source government contractors and unions with exclusive bargaining powers from making contributions to political candidates. Wow, what’s that, three anti-union measures on the ballot? There’s something to be said for some of the provisions here, but it’s a ham-handed approach, and doesn’t prove its case. No. 

* AMENDMENT 55 – Just cause – Would require an employer to provide a reason for firing a worker. Current labor laws make it difficult enough. Probably No. 

* AMENDMENT 56 – Health coverage for employees – Would require employers with 20 or more workers to provide health care coverage for workers. Some action is better than no action. Yes. 

* AMENDMENT 57 – Safe workplaces – Would allow an employee to sue for damages in addition to any settlements from the workers compensation system. Employers should be held accountable for unsafe workplaces. Probably Yes.  

* AMENDMENT 58 – Severance taxes on the Oil and Natural Gas Industry – Would reduce energy company tax breaks and use revenue to pay for college scholarships and other programs. Explain to me again why are we subsidizing energy companies? Yes. 

* AMENDMENT 59 – Education Funding and TABOR Rebates – Would lift constitutional limits on state spending and direct additional revenue into an education fund. I’m no TABOR fan, but this one hasn’t convinced me. Probably No. 

* REFERENDUM L: Would lower the age of a candidate for the Colorado House and Senate from 25 to 21. Let the voters decide. Yes. 

* REFERENDUM M – Would eliminate obsolete provisions in the state constitution about land value increases. It’s not clear they are all that obsolete. No. 

* REFERENDUM N: – Would eliminate obsolete provisions in the constitution about intoxicating liquor. In this case, there’s no reason for the provisions. Yes. 

* REFERENDUM O: Would increase the number of signatures required on petitions for constitutional amendments to at least 6 percent of votes cast in the previous election for governor. Retains citizen initiatives but makes constitutional changes a bit harder. Yes. 

Electoral College watch

A week later, here we are (+ means an increase, * means unchanged, – means a decrease): Site Obama McCain Toss-Up ElectionProjection.com  364 – 174 + Electoral-vote.com 364 + 171 – 3 -…

A week later, here we are (+ means an increase, * means unchanged, – means a decrease):

Site Obama McCain Toss-Up

ElectionProjection.com 

364 

174 +

Electoral-vote.com

364 +

171 –

3 –

FiveThirtyEight.com

344 

194 +

Pollster.com

286 –

157 +

95 +

270ToWin.com

277 +

163 *

98 –

Hedgehog Report

326 –

212 +

FederalReview.com

338 –

166 –

34 +

3 Blue Dudes

313 –

166 –

59 +

Electoral Scoreboard

367 +

171 –

 

As previously predicted, the gap growth has stalled, and even it’s even contracted a bit. Different sources are showing some gains for Obama, more have gains for McCain, and a number have shown growth in the “tie” states. Note, though, that everyone on the list is now giving the electoral majority (in most cases very comfortably) to Obama.

Over in the other races, here’s how things are looking.

Site

Senate
(49-49)
 

House
(233-199)
Govs
(28-22)

ElectionProjection.com 

57-41

251-184

29-21
Electoral-vote.com

58-41

250-184

 

FiveThirtyEight.com

57-41

 

Pollster.com

55-39

246-166

27-21 

Electoral Scoreboard

53-39

 

 

I haven’t spelled out the tied and independent numbers; you can interpolate them.

The most interesting thing I’ve heard in the Senate race was a very sad scenario in which Joe Lieberman might still be able to wield influence, i.e., if the Dems get to 59 seats, and Joe ends up as the man who can give them a closure-ensuring 60. Now, that’s the kind of trouble one wants to be in, but I’d still almost be willing to sacrifice it in order to send him off to the wood shed (literally — have his office moved to a wood shed) where we don’t need to hear from him any more.

***Dave Does the Election – Weekly Catch-up Edition

All right, you caught me out — I’ve been slacking off the last week-plus, consorting with furriners. What else can you expect from a terroristic socialism-supporter like moi?  Meanwhile,…

All right, you caught me out — I’ve been slacking off the last week-plus, consorting with furriners. What else can you expect from a terroristic socialism-supporter like moi? 

Meanwhile, back in reality … a lot of what I might have blogged about is old news, but there’s plenty of fresh acorns to dig up, and a few older ones that have taken root.

In the McCain camp, the worst news is Obama getting the thoughtful and studied endorsement of Colin Powell. Though reaction in the fringes has been predictably vitriolic (thus demonstrating, perhaps, why Powell never ran for the top job himself, and in the process shootingthemselves in the foot), it’s seen by most as a huge blow to McCain’s campaign. Many of the GOP centrists who admired McCain back in 2000 like Powell for similar reasons, no matter how sullied he was by the Iraq War run-up. Moderates on the fence, already questioning McCain’s qualifications and temperament, might very well see Powell’s vote for Obama as an inspiration as to where they should be placing their vote.

(If the serious GOP really doesn’t want Powell around any more, do we have a deal for you.)

As important, though as the endorsement was another very special part of Powell’s message, where he directly confronted the idea that it was somehow irreconsilable that someone could be a Muslim and a good American (or, as McCain put it elsewhere, an Arab and a good family man).  It’s speeches like that, even from a Republican, that give me (and, I should think, the world) hope in what America stands for.

Meanwhile, other endorsements roll in — some very surprising ones that don’t strike me just as rats deserting a sinking ship. From Christopher Buckley (William F’s boy, equally conservative, and now paying the price for his heresy) to the Chicago Tribune (which hasn’t endorsed a Democrat since the paper was founded by one of the GOP’s founders) to Christopher Hitchens (which might give me pause to reconsider my own vote), the number of people supporting Obama and explicitly rejecting the negative campaigning of the McCain camp continues to grow.

Another sign of Obama’s support: a record-breaking $150 million in contributions last month, the majority of which was small individual contributions (waves hand), and not primarily big $10K-a-plate celebrity dinner sorts of affairs. Though McCain tries to make this out as something horrible (waving around Watergate, of all things, as well as calling into question who all those “little people” are), it’s both a huge advantage for Obama right now (despite the large coffers of the GOP and their supporters) and, McCain’s rhetoric aside, an affirmation of how a large republic can work, and provides a better path than public financing (the risk is not with large total contributions, but with having large contributions from a few individuals).

Speaking of which, it seems the rich are divided on the race, with the “pretty darned rich” ($1-10 million) being for McCain (since he’ll cut their taxes), but the “super rich” (over $10 million / yr) being much more for Obama (probably because even an increase in their tax rate will still mean money coming in faster than they can spend it — which is one of the points of a progressive tax system).

In addition to the increasingly dismissed rhetoric about William Ayers (finally disarmed by Obama’s noting who else served on all those boards with the two of them), the McCain camp has decided that voter registration fraud is the key to throwing the election into doubt (and warranting draconian voter exclusion measures). Never mind that the fraud committed was by a few people and against ACORN itself, not the government, or that there’s a huge difference between registration fraud and voter fraud. McCain is busy painting ACORN as a bigger threat (kettle, black) to the republic than the Soviet Union ever was, a canard the GOP trots out every election like clockwork

The result, of course, is some truly disgusting and threatening vitriol unleashed against ACORN by folks who have drunk the McCain Kool-aid on this and think anything is justified to protect the republic from that socialistic Muslim black liberal Arabic uppity commie — like hanging in effigy, assaulting campaign workers, trashing cars, killing animals, or slashing tires.

But remember — this is all about Change and Honor and America. Right?

No wonder some folks keep their Obama stickers on the inside of the glass.

And the dirty tricks continue to pile up, both petty and gross. Scaring off student votersStealing campaign signs. Frightening children. Or even blaming stupid voters when voting machines mysteriously change votes to Republicans.

Of course, such actions are fully justified to protect us from a “Totalitarian, Pansexual Society” full of “Disease, Dysfunction and Abuse”, and to combat Anti-American Liberals who “Hate Real Americans That Work And Achieve And Believe In God”.

(Yup, sounds just like me, doesn’t it?)

Oh, and Obama’s a druggie, though we shouldn’t pay attention to that when it’s inconvenient to our own candidacy, but should when it seems all is lost. He’s also busy creating his own “United States of Obama” flag — oh, wait, that’s the Ohio state flag, gosh, don’t we feel silly?

Okay, having said all of that, and heaped justified calumny upon some McCain/Palin yahoo supporters, let me also give credit where credit is due, and note that sometimes some of them stand up for what’s right. Mad props.

McCain also has taken to calling Obama a socialist (y’know, those guys who want to do things like nationalize the banking system and like that). Of course, the real Socialists are kind of upset by the comparison.

This wild thrashing about hasn’t impressed or built any better ties with the grass-roots state organizations, which can’t figure out if they’re supposed to be more slanderous than thou, or whether it would be better to be saving up their money for 2010 …

McCain isn’t getting any love from astronomers and stargazers, either. Maybe he’s decided to rely on astrology instead. Though if there’s someone in the campaign who doesn’t need astrology, it’s Barack Obama, who fits all the categories of being Mr. Self-Actualized; I’m sure there are some folks who will think that’s a bad thing.

Meanwhile, in and/or from the Great White North, we have Gov. Palin, who’s only doing interviews with such difficult adversaries as Fox News and the 700 Club. Heck, even the press covering her are being kept under a watchful eye by the campaign. That’s because Sarah, poor Ms. Sarah, is being mocked, mocked! And so is God!

I trust God can take care of himself. Sarah could probably avoid the mockery if she could string two coherent sentences together. To which end, pity the poor girl growing up with the name “Sarah McCain Palin.” No, I do not joke.

But Gov. Palin may yet serve a useful purpose besides reviving Saturday Night Live‘s fortunes. She may yet establish the “Palin Effect,” to wit, the VP choice can actually make a difference in the electoin. Palin may have been McCain’s “Jump the Shark” moment — “It sounded so good sitting around the table …”

So did the DMCA, John …

All of which, despite a slowing (inevitable) of the gap in the polls and the McCain campaign trumpeting that momentum is changing their way, point to the possibility of a huge Democratic landslide, a watershed event. And if that means the GOP has it’s (metaphorical) Forty Years in the Wastes figuring out how to get back to its conservative, small-government, sane roots — all the better for everyone (including the Democrats). But that means that, regardless of the outcome, we be willing to stay engaged with even our opponents, and not simply give up and leave if things don’t go our way. It’s our country. All of it and everyone. 

And in a bit of non-Us-vs.-Them news:

Sign of the times

We’ve never done this before for a candidate. But we’re pleased to do it now….

We’ve never done this before for a candidate. But we’re pleased to do it now.

Office and Politics

I don’t talk much politics around the office. I mean, that’s one of those sure-fire ways to cause enmity and friction, and it’s not really what office relationships are supposed…

I don’t talk much politics around the office. I mean, that’s one of those sure-fire ways to cause enmity and friction, and it’s not really what office relationships are supposed to be about.

However, inevitably, during my trip to India, the subject of the US presidential campaign came up

Five American IT professionals from a multi-national engineering firm. Middle management. One from Texas. One from the “Squirrel Meat Belt.” One a VP. One an immigrant from India. One from a middle-class suburban Catholic background.

Every one of us was voting for Barack Obama.

The biggest (and most encouraging surprise) was from the gent from Tennessee, who has been a life-long Republican, from a family of life-long deep-blood-red Republicans. He’s decided to cross over for this election. His argument:

I’ve always just hated the way the Democratic Party panders to the electorate, promising them stuff they know they can’t deliver. But the Republicans have become even worse, pandering in a way the Democrats can never match, and doing fear-mongering, too. And the pick of Palin was just the final insult. 

For what it’s worth, he still thinks McCain is an honorable man, but says (a) his time has come and gone, and (b) it’s a deep shame how his campaign has “forced” him into running in such a negative way.

I didn’t argue the matter.

He also thinks Obama is genuinely inspiring, not just another Democratic pol, but someone who can lead the country.

I can’t argue against that.

I suspect that, had you polled this same group four or eight years ago, you would have had a very different mix.

For what it’s worth, the Indians who were in the room during any of these conversations were all pro-Obama, too. None of them seemed to feel McCain’s foreign policy chops were all that much to their benefit.

Presidential Debate #3

Yikes! Noting like turning on BBC first thing in the morning and running into … the last Presidential Debate!? A few notes (coming in a little late): Um, attacking…

Yikes! Noting like turning on BBC first thing in the morning and running into … the last Presidential Debate!?

A few notes (coming in a little late):

Um, attacking McCain’s health care plan is not an “attack ad” on McCain. Get serious.

Obama brings up the problems at the McCain/Palin rallies. McCain tries to turn it into an attack on veterans and all his supporters. “I’m proud” of them. Sure, a few fringe, we’ve “always” said it’s inappropriate?

Ayers thing comes up. McCain is all “I don’t care, but WE NEED TO KNOW!” Obama addresses the whole Ayers/ACORN thing very simply, plainly, effectively. McCain just repeats the charge.

Obama lauds Biden. McCain lauds Palin. Reformer! Breath of fresh air! (!) Reformer! And, um … special needs! Reformer! Obama won’t attack her directly — it’s up to the American people. Capable politician and special needs, that’s nice. But, of course, special needs are going to require added funding, and an across-the-board freeze would hurt that. McCain says Biden is qualified, but has voted wrong a lot (against GW I, in favor of partitition).

McCain turns the special needs thing into SPEND, SPEND, SPEND! And raising people’s taxes!

Energy. We can eliminate dependence on Middle Eastern and Venezuelan oil (Canada is okay). Nukes — store and reprocess (!). Nuclear power plants on navy ships is okay, safe, no problem! (Eek!) Obama — reduce in 10 years, that’s realistic. Biggest problem right now. Yeah, making some domestic drilling, but that’s not it alone. Glancing at notes. Alternates. Domestic US high-mileage car — that’s something we can work on.

NAFTA. Free trade cool, but Bush admin is “any trade treaty is a good trade treaty.” Environmental and labor concerns. Car imbalance in South Korea. McCain attacks because Obama’s only “looking at” offshore drilling. Free trade cool — and we need more (Columbia!) — and Obama hasn’t traveled — and Columbia free trade agreement Obama opposes, and they are helping us on the war on drugs! Travel down there! Neener! Obama notes violations and killings in Columbia’s labor movement — need to stand up for human rights. Need a president who likes free trade but who will stand up in the face of problems.

Need to lean on automakers — provide some loan support, but also get them to do both more fuel-efficient cars and other manufacturing alternate energy stuff. McCain: doesn’t want free trade with our good ally, but willing to SIT ACROSS THE TABLE WITH HUGO CHAVEZ!   He wants to restrict trade and raise taxes! Hoover!

Controlling health care costs over expanding coverage? Obama, need to do both and that’s what our plan does. Anecdotes. Describes plan. Like what you have, great; otherwise, get to join the federal employee pools, preexisting conditions, negotiate on drugs, IT, preventive care … (all good, probably insufficient). Costs money, but long-term savings. McCain: Fines if you don’t have health care! Health care bureaucracies! Single payer system! Canada and England! Obama: No, just described. Joe the Plumber pays zero — exempting small business. Just larger businesses — who are dumping costs into Medicare of uninsured.

And the McCain plan. $5K plan — employers will dump 20mn people, higher pool costs, taxing people health care benefits, $5K doesn’t cover squat vs $12K. And it strips state-based rules, cherrypicking and excluding insured. McCain: mangles the small business thing. Mandates! Big government! 95% of people will get more money under my plan — current (taxed) benefits, plus $5K, except gold-plated cadillac coverage. Democrats! Government spending! They’ve been in charge the last two years!

Obama: You just heard my plan. US Chamber of Commerce has condemned McCain plan.

Roe v Wade! Could you nominate someone to the SCOTUS who opposed you? McCain – I’ve never had a litmus test. But it’s a bad decision. State-based decisions. Nominate based on qualifications, not a litmus test. I voted for Breyer and Ginsburg. Obama voted against Breyer and Roberts because they weren’t ideologically right. Strict adherence to constitution. I believe in quals — not a litmus test, but can’t imagine Roe v Wade support being strict adherence to constitution. (So … what’s the difference?)

Obama: Not a litmus test, but Roe v Wade was right. Abortion is very difficult, a moral issue, good people on both sides — but women are in the best position to make this decision. Right to privacy, not subject to state referendum, any more than First Amendment is. Pulls decision over the the Lilly Ledbetter decision; I supported the effort to change law, and McCain opposed it. McCain: trial lawyer’s dream! And we need courage and compassion to help women. Attacks Obama record for what he supported or voted “present” on all sorts of “pro-abortion” things. Obama: explains the situation on the Illinois votes, clearly. Abortion issue divides us — but surely there is common ground we can try to prevent unintended pregancies, through better education, adoption, etc. All in the Democratic platform this year. McCain: “Health of the mother” is a weasel phrase. Dinging Obama’s “eloquence.”

Education. We spend more per capita than any nation, but math and science K-12 trail the world.

Obama: Huge economic and national security issue. We need to invest — early childhood education, proven benefits. Recruit new teachers. Graduate debt. And parents need to be responsible. McCain: civil rights issue of the 21st century (?). Equal access to schools, but failed schools. Choice and competition among schools. Charter schools. Merit pay for teachers. Fire bad teachers. Need to provide folks school choice. More money not the answer — worst schools get most money (!). State certification rules inflexible. More student loan and affordable ones, and key to inflation.

Federal government / money? Obama – tradition of local control is good, but feds need to step up and help. NCLB, but money left behind, unfunded mandates. Ditto with special ed. Also need a way to get rid of bad teachers, yeah. But vouchers don’t secure problems with education. And McCain’s record against college affordability, dinged as an “interest group.” McCain: vouchers in DC cool, and you’re ignoring that example! NCLB – first beginning. Head Start not doing the job, need to reform and fund, but Dems oppose. Need reform! Transparancy! Accountability! Funding! Autism — I have Sarah Palin! We’ll fund and spend the money to research, and Americans will support that. I will fund stuff that is useful. Vouchers! Obama circles back to vouchers in DC. McCain’s voucher plan only expands the DC voucher program. Need to look at it nationwide.

Final statements.

McCain: Thanks, thanks. Need a new direction beyond last 8 years. Reformer! (Not Maverick, Refomer, I guess). Long record. Steward of tax dollars. Health care. Education. Stop spending. It’s all based on trust of you on steward of dollars, security, prosperity. My entire life in service of this nation, country first, long line of McCains, honor of my life, hope you’ll give me an opportunity.

Obama: Thanks. Tough times. Last 8 years, and decades of neglect from Congress. Biggest risk is to adopt the failed policies and politics of last 8 years. Fundamental change. Last 20 months — invited me in, fundamental generosity and decency. Need to invest in American people, tax cuts, education, health care, energy economy, policies to increase middle class. Not going to be easy or quick, but we need all come together.


 

Summary: Not much of a winner on points from either side. Obama was calm and cool, didn’t respond to needling, held his own rhetorically, addressed (in too much detail) some outstanding issues. McCain recycled a lot of standard talking points, stood his ground on the same ones even when addressed.

The more intimate across-the-table format probably favored McCain — no walking the stage, more “intimate.” There was definitely more interplay and interruptions between the two.

The McCain rhetoric was basically, “I’m a reformer, he’s a spender. I’m not about personal attacks, but he needs to answer these charges. Oh, I’m a reformer, by the way — here are a few more talking points and buzz words.” The Obama rhetoric was essentially, “Here is my plan, here’s how his plan won’t work, here’s the mystery explained, let’s band together.”

Not surprisingly, given the tenor of the campaign, Obama, the outsider and party-changer, seemed a bit more — if not assured of victory, then certainly the front-runner. He seemed presidential, despite McCain’s snarky and repeated snipes at his “eloquence.”  McCain was the “feisty underdog” again, but didn’t seem to be able to raise his points without dragging the conversation kicking and screaming to make them.

I’d give the debate slightly to Obama overall, though it was by no means a blow-out. Most importantly, I don’t see anything happening here likely to take away the momentum and lead that the Obama campaign holds.