- Pandora sends user GPS, sex, birthdate, other data to ad servers – Naughty-naughty …
- Krugman Exposes GOP Ryan’s Unicorn Budget, Catches Heritage Burying Number – The series as a whole is worth reviewing. “This isn’t a serious proposal; it’s a strange combination of cruelty and insanely wishful thinking.”
- What would you do? – Actually it seems perfectly convenient. Ayn Rand wasn’t against exploiting altruism and “handouts” that she could get; she just condemned having to pay for them for others. Paul Ryan is being a loyal minion to the cause.
Category: Taxing & Spending
Unblogged Bits (Tue. 8-Feb-11 1630)
- Food Network Comment Trolling – This one’s for Margie.
- So a geek walks into a bar… Science Jokes! – The last (non-science) one is for my mom and dad.
- Red-Shirt vs. Stormtrooper [Cartoon] – Heh.
- Being Smart Without a License : Dispatches from the Culture Wars – Never rile the bureaucracy!
- If You Cheat in… [Pic] – Quite possibly true (I say, speaking from working with a lot of engineers, and seeing the stuff they work on that could, in fact, kill people if poorly designed).
- US Army warns: Tweet with care – Loose Tweets Sink Fleets!
- The potential impact of corporate tax reform – “Arguably, the United States now has a corporate tax code that’s the worst of all worlds. The official rate is higher than in almost any other country, which forces companies to devote enormous time and effort to finding loopholes. Yet the government raises less money in corporate taxes than it once did, because of all the loopholes that have been added in recent decades.”
- Teen’s medical marijuana fight escalates as school says he cannot come back to class after going home for medicine | Colorado Independent – Stupid asshat zero tolerance policies. Never mind about the person involved, we have rules to follow! Yeesh.
Unblogged Bits (Sun. 6-Feb-11 2230)
- Palin Trademark Refused Because She Forgot To Sign Application – The idea of Sarah Palin “providing motivational-speaking services in the field of life choices” is … disturbing.
- ‘Captain America’ Super Bowl Commercial – Whoa! And … cool!! (More once I mentally digest …)
- Governor Perry to slash child services spending as Texas child poverty hits 24% – But there’s budgets to be balanced! And it’s not like we can ask people to pay taxes for, y’know, takin’ care of needy kids! That’s socialism!
- Reagan administration was number one: Chris in Paris
- Michele Bachmann: I Take My First Breath In The Morning Thinking “Repeal Obamacare” – In the famous words of William Shatner, “Get a life!”
- Class Action Suit Filed Against Jimmy Carter Book – NYTimes.com – Jeez … if we get have class action suits and injunctions against any non-fiction book that someone claims is offensively misrepresenting the facts, we might never have any non-fiction books on contemporary events ever again. Certainly Glenn Beck would be out of the publishing business. Yeesh.
- A Digital Future for the Founding Fathers – NYTimes.com – Most excellent.
- War on science – what else would you call it? – I’m sure if there’s any useful science out there to be done, it will be done by Monsanto, and GE, and … um … the Chinese!
- Media Matters staff: Fox News Radio’s Starnes: “Terrorists And Illegals Have More Rights Than Folks Attending The Super Bowl” – I read this dolt’s Twitter feed to dig into some of the (non-)stories he links to. Aside from a “God bless Ronald Reagan” and a note about how classy a First Lady Nancy was, the man has pretty much zero to say positive about anything. And, apparently, it’s all OBAMA’S FAULT. Yeesh.
- Shake it off, little fella – Mickey Mouse became famous first as an underdog, then as the symbol for something wonderful. But like the Founding Fathers, he pales when there’s no blood beneath the flesh, and his reign as symbolic monarch of the Disney brand as seemed more and more empty as the decades have rolled along. The question is not what can Disney do about it, but whether they will.
Unblogged Bits (Mon. 31-Jan-11 1030)
- IMPORTANT HEALTH NEWS: “Adults who make love first thing in the morning apparently not only feel mo… – But, honey, if you don’t have your health …
- Cella Energy claims breakthrough that would result in $1.50 per gallon gasoline alternative. – “If this is real you can expect the Oil Industry to have an absolute shit fit over it. I’d like to be optimistic about it, but the cynic in me can’t help but think that even if it does work as well as claimed that there’ll be some wicked trade-off like it causes cancer in everything that comes in contact with it or something else equally horrible.” Or at least that’s what some with a vested interest in the status quo will CLAIM … [/conspiracymode]
- A note to the Teapartiers… – But … but … if they had guns, they’d automatically have freedom! Plus, they’re Muslims! You can’t trust them with guns!
- DORK TOWER, Tuesday, January 25, 2011 – The Door into Summer …
- Would you like to play a game? – RLC January / 31 / 2011 – Yet another reason I intentionally don’t spend much time on Facebook …
- Again with ‘exceptionalism’? – I’d like to think that “exceptional” is meant as “unique” or “unanticipated” or somehow particularly wonderful. But “exceptional” also seems a lazy way of excusing our behavior: nobody should be allowed to torture prisoners “except” the US (because we’re “exceptional”); nobody should overthrow governments “except” the US (because we’re “exceptional”), etc. That this word has become a ginned-up synonym for “patriotic” is all the more lousy.
- The serious flaws in the GOP’s anti-abortion bill – Not only does it block Medicaid funding for abortions when rapes aren’t “forcible” enough, it effectively does the same for private insurance under the Affordable Care Act. But remember, the GOP is steadfastly against imposing the government’s tyrannical health insurance rules on private individuals!
- Opposition Leader ElBaradei: Threat of Muslim Brotherhood Is A ‘Myth’ Lacking ‘One Iota Of Reality’ – For some, 30-year-regime autocrats are less anti-American than scary MMMMUUUUSSSLLLIIMMMMSSSS …
- Boehner Admits Failing To Raise Debt Ceiling Would Be ‘A Disaster,’ But Takes It Hostage Anyway – “Nice economy we got here. Be a shame if something were to happen to it …”
- Politician Breaks Into Home, Sues Owners For Injuries – Shall I mention that Sen. Alesi is a Republican, that party of rugged self-responsibility, private property rights, and tort reform?
- Frank Rich: The Tea Party wags the dog – The GOP establishment is potentially in a lot of trouble. Unfortunately, that has consequences for the nation as a whole, too.
- GOP Priorities: Redefining Rape – While abortion is an option I’ll never be happy about, this, right here, is precisely why I will never make that decision for someone else, for the person, individual, citizen, woman, who is ultimately having to make that choice. That there are those who are so enamored of the abstract that they would deign to decide who “qualifies,” whose rape was “forcible” enough to “merit” coverage of abortion services, is itself sickening enough.
- Man With Explosives Arrested Outside Michigan Mosque – I’ll be curious to hear more about this case.
- 15 Of The World’s Coolest Swimming Pools – I love the Hearst one they show — but the other one is far better.
- I Me Mine: The Unholy Trinity Of Ayn Rand « Tomfoolery – Rand appeals to the high school / college period of self-discovery by saying, “You are the only person in the world who matters. Pursue your own self-interest because that is the highest good.” Most people grow out of that, fortunately. Randians never seem to. And way too many of them are now in the halls of our government.
- Building a Better Word Cloud – An interesting analysis (esp. if you compare the most frequent words and compare them to the person usually considered more “aloof” and “analyitical” and out of touch, vs. the person who it’s often claimed is “one of us”).
- HOWTO make health-care cheaper by spending more on patients who need it – ” In other words, providing excellent, personalized care to the small number of patients who don’t fit the system’s model saves far more money than making the system more stringent, with more paperwork, higher co-pays and other punitive measures. It’s a win-win.” The problem with systems is that they are rarely dynamic enough to deal with those outside the system. And they usually do everything they can to defend themselves from change.
- AMERICAblog News: Maddow: The story behind Michelle Bachmann’s speech — it was a manufactured ‘event’ by CNN & a Republican for-profit consultant – CNN: All the News that’s Fit to Gin Up!
- Neil Barofsky: Credit ratings for banks now include assurance of government bailouts – Imagine the brouhaha if social activists were stating that any individual should feel free to take whatever risk they want because the government would always bail them out with a security net. But, then, the banks are “too big to fail,” and too many individuals are “too small to matter.”
Unblogged Bits (Mon. 27-Dec-10 1630)
- Cambridge university refuses to censor student’s thesis on chip-and-PIN vulnerabilities – “Cambridge is the University of Erasmus, of Newton, and of Darwin; censoring writings that offend the powerful is offensive to our deepest values.” Good show, sir (and a good poke in the eye toward “If you embarrass us over our known security lapses, then the terrorists and crooks win” types of weasels).
- All I Needed To Drain Her Checking Account Was Her Wallet — Good Thing I’m Her Husband – It’s a difficult balance between providing security and not inconveniencing customers. That sort of balance usually means that a determined intruder can break in.
- 5 Downright Silly Sales Taxes – I wonder if that, beyond the environmental aspect, is why some local coffee shops I visit in Colorado (Ink! comes to mind) don’t automatically put a lid on the coffee they serve.
- Pilot raided for YouTube video exposing airport security flaws – It’s rarely safe to point out the Emperor has no clothes, esp. when he still has his guards.
- ACLU bristles over terror list | Chattanooga Times Free Press – If you create an information-gathering apparatus with no checks or balances or oversight, then it will gather all the information it can, including politically-driven information. It’s been demonstrated in this country, among others, time and time again.
- Education And National Security: Can The Republicans Be Shamed Into Closing The Gap? – Don’t worry! American Exceptionalism means that even if all of our kids who rely on public schools don’t get a good edumication at all, God will still watch over us! (And weep.)
- Civil War message opened, decoded: No help coming – All Salon – Salon.com – Of such small threads is history made.
- Dec. 27, 1831: Beagle Sets Sail With a Very Special Passenger – Happy Beagle Day!
- Faking It – I would argue there is no value in faking respect for the validity of others’ opinions; the respect (fake or not) is for others to have their own opinions. Yes, there are in fact times when false claims, especially harmful ones, need to be challenged. But there are other times when we’re called to simply smile and nod and be polite and kind (and that applies to most all opinions on things religious and non-). But the key here is not respecting a “lie” or an “error,” but the person making it.
- Comcast + NBCU approval likely in January with some strings attached – The problem with putting one-off regulatory bounds around the proposed merger is that they are subject to change and revision by future administrations, Congresses, and business conditions. I don’t see the value to society and the consumer of creating this kind of vertical oligopoly, vs. the potential risks, and that, to my mind, is enough to say No.
- Scientists say extreme winter a result of climate change – This is why the term “global warming” is misleading (if, in aggregate, accurate). It’s not just that everything everywhere gets slowly, gradually warmer, but, in the short term, weather patterns get disrupted and, yes, you can get massive fronts of unusually cold (or hot) weather. Weather is not the same as climate, but when you have a lot of weather that is different, over a long period of time, then you have a climate that’s different.
- WikiLeaks: DEA now a global intelligence organization – Another result of the ever-reaching War on Drugs.
- NY Times editorial on banks stopping payments to WikiLeaks – It’s particularly worrisome given the increasing consolidation of the banking industry.
- Reid pushing ahead with filibuster reform – I hope this goes forward. The filibuster does provide a safety net at the extremes, but when it is so easily and repeatedly threatened (as it has been by the GOP this year), resulting in widespread obstruction of any governance, it clearly needs reform. And, yes, I say that realizing that someday it will be the Dems again the minority in the Senate.
Unblogged Bits (Sun. 26-Dec-10 1631)
- Pickup Lines – December 25, 2010
- Flickr .Net Screensaver – Oooh … looks like this works with Win7. Excellent.
- The 6 Most Terrifying Work Commutes in the World | Cracked.com – Okay, this might make even my brother feel a bit better …
- What WikiLeaks revealed to the world in 2010 – Well worth reading, especially Greenwald’s commentary on the story of the reaction to WikiLeaks being as important as the information revealed. The only caveat (as we saw with the Cuba/Moore tale): diplomatic cables are not objective truth, and at least some fraction of what was “revealed” was what folks were reporting on to their bosses, or rumors that were being passed on, not necessarily smoking guns (cf. your own company’s email system).
- Badass Quote of the Day [Dispatches from the Culture Wars] – The problem is, it’s not a binary thing. There is a lot of good the US has done. There’s a lot of good ideas we’ve shared, too. I hold no truck with the “America is TEH EVILLL!” croud. But by the same token, the idea that God has mysteriously favored this country to be the moral (if not economic and political) arbiter for the world, or that this somehow gilds all of our actions into some sort of exceptionalism (i.e., that we are an exception to … what, the forces of history and the nature of humanity?) is equally ludicrous, and just as dangerous.
- Congress Should End Ethanol Subsidies : Dispatches from the Culture Wars – Imagine spending $6 billion / year, not on subsidizing net-fossil-neutral ethanol subsidies for major agribusinesses (don’t fool yourself it’s all for Mom-n-Pop farmers), but on some actual renewable energy sources — heck, wouldn’t it be nice to be able to recycle all those Amazon boxes from gift-giving into fuel?
- South Carolina Holds Secession Ball [Dispatches from the Culture Wars] – “But we do celebrate the courage and the integrity of 170 men who signed their signatures to the Article of Secession – the courage of men to do what they think is right.” But doesn’t WHAT they thought was right play into the question of whether it deserves celebration?
- Listening – Dilbert for December 24, 2010
- Porn site: publicizing takedown notices is copyright infringement – Yes, by slapping a copyrighted image in your takedown notice (so you can notify someone in the notice of what you say they are violating), you are now making it a copyrighted document in and of itself, which means it has to be kept hidden. Brilliantly evil!
- Guns for Christmas – All I can think of here is that Zombies for the Holidays video …
- Newly Discovered Molecule Will Make Rocket Fuel Super Efficient [Rockets] – Cool.
- More ISS photos from space poet & NASA astronaut Wheelock | triggerpit.com – Lovely.
- Economy Forces Big Budget Cuts for Science Fairs – FoxNews.com – Who needs Science Fairs?! We can just have Bible Memorization Bees!
- I love – HA!
- My Christmas Tree – I want.
- Tomes 2010: Harry Potter Mania Edition – Nicely written. And, yes, setting the movies aside (though they do have something to recommend them, esp. later on), these are books that a lot of adults would get a lot of entertainment (and thrills) from. I’ll probably be ready to reread the series again after the next (last) movie comes out.
- Reading as inclination leads – I think it’s good to push oneself (or to be pushed a bit), but I’m also very much (obviously) a believer in Reading What You Like, and then encouraging yourself to like more.
Unblogged Bits (Wed. 15-Dec-10 2230)
- Topless Robot – 5 Good Things and 5 Exceedingly Bad Things about the Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark Musical – Page 1 – Oh … my ….
- The Pros and Cons of Pirates of the Caribbean 4, as Evidenced by the Trailer – Here’s the problem (as I see it): what made PotC 1 so good was that it was not about Cap’n Jack Sparrow. It was about Will and Elizabeth. As the series progressed, it became less about them and more about Cap’n Jack hijinx. Now that it’s just about Cap’n Jack … meh.
- I Gotta Give Fox This One – Well I have to say, they’re at least being up-front about it.
- BBC News – How the ancient Welsh language helped shape English – Cwl!
- Not lost in translation: dictionary traces English words’ Irish roots – The Irish Times – Wed, Dec 01, 2010
- When will English come to a full stop? | Books | The Observer – I don’t see any reason why English shouldn’t continue on as an (already-established) lingua franca for centuries, if not longer — but I strongly suspect America’s dominance over it will wane, just as England’s did before it.
- Top 10 Reasons Why I Should Direct “Iron Man III” – I’d buy a ticket.
- Self-Depritweeting – You’re not here for the hunting, are ya, Tim?
- The culture of conspiracy, the conspiracy of culture – Quoting Teresa Nielsen Hayden on WikiLeaks: “Two or three million people had unchecked access to this material, but my government is outraged that I can read it? What am I now, a peasant?”
- React Like It’s 1805 – ” People who claim to be “originalists” without expressing concern about the effect of a standing army on democracy are either disingenuous or uninformed, or both.” Having a large standing army (and, arguably, some need for same) is not only not in keeping with what the Founders (in general) wanted, but has had a significant distortion on our government and taxation from what those Founders — or their succeeding generations — intended. But I don’t think you’re going to hear Scalia or Thomas (let alone McConnell or Gingrich or Hannity) going on about that.
- How the Republican Party broke up with Science – Yes.
- The Reign of Witches Has Not Passed – “The treatment of Bradley Manning is microcosmic of a broader trend that does not speak well for the degree of civilization in our society. And yet we continue to lecture the world as if we were somehow exceptional.”
- What Jim DeMint considers ‘sacrilegious’ – Worth reading just for the “update” at the end.
- An unexpected moment of candor – Candor? From a GOP Senator? Inconceivable!
- Gohmert: Without DADT, Military Stands to Lose Thousands and US Will Reach the “End of its Existence as a Great Nation” – So, according to Rep Gohmert (R-TX, natch) we can’t let gays openly serve in the military because the military is already restricted in its freedom, so we can’t give any freedom to the gays there. Um … right. Bottom line, Rep. Gohmert demeans the patriotism and professionalism of our soldiers by suggesting that they’ll run, screaming to the hills, if it turns out that the guy the next foxhole over is (eek!) gay.
- Allow Me To Quote Bryan Fischer Verbatim: “That’s Not Misrepresentation, That’s Quotation.” – Bryan Fischer is a … well, I repeat myself.
- Conservatives Seeks To Reform Justice System To Lock Up Fewer Criminals – But the driver here is not, of course, justice, but (a) saving money, and (b) victim (consumer) satisfaction. And, honestly, I suspect they are more concerned about (a).
- Religious Right Keeps Fighting Losing Battle Against DADT – Quoth Liberty Counsel: “I am incensed that these lame duck demagogues refuse to accept the fact that Americans do not want open homosexuality in our armed forces!” Quoth I, I am incensed that these totally lame demagogues refuse to accept the fact that Americans DO want open homosexuality in our armed forces. Or, at least, they don’t think it’s right to kick open homosexuals out.
Unblogged Bits (Wed. 1-Dec-10 1631)
- Red Rock Canyon petroglyphs vandalized – May I please use a baseball bat on this vandalous moron? Please?
- Two more walls collapse at Pompeii – Gag! Stop it until I see you next year!
- Two more walls collapse at Pompeii: Sevaan Franks
- Illinois Civil Unions Bill Passes Senate, Gov. Quinn Will Sign Into Law – Well done, Illinois. It’s not actual marriage, but it’s less unequal than before.
- iPhone Auto Correct Screw Ups – “External garderobes”! Excellent!
- House GOP Ends Climate-Change Committee Because It’s Not Real – Because why would we need to have a congressional focus not just on climate change, but on energy independence? Just drill, baby, drill! And with enough warming, soon everywhere will be a deep-water drilling site!
- Strange bedfellows and ethanol subsidies – Amusing. But the whole ethanol thing has been a bi-partisan vs bi-partisan issue for a long time. It will be interesting to see how the “federal spending doesn’t create jobs” thang goes alongside the “cutting this federal spending will cost jobs” thang.
- Wasn’t My Job to Do My Job – So from Simpson’s standpoint, it was to put out what HE thought were the solutions to the problem, not to come up with something that that the commission could all agree on. Um … then why do you think you weren’t the only one asked, knucklehead?
- Kyl: Dems Cave By Monday Or No START Treaty | TPMDC – So, Sen. Kyl, the issue is not all your ostensible concerns over nuclear security and upgrading our remaining weaponry, but it’s about playing political games. Got it. Thanks for revealing yourself as a hack.
- Bedroom Decorating Is a Hot Trend for Tweens and Teens – WSJ.com – We’ve (esp. the [ahem] maternal grandparents) certainly indulged Kay with some redecorating efforts in her room, though much has been DIY, not via Pottery Barn and the like. And that’s how you can do it without spending several thousand dollars every couple of years (sorry, Kitten).
- Foreign aid and public confusion – “This may be the single most important fact about public opinion regarding the budget: most Americans think that much if not most of the money the federal government spends goes to things they don’t like and people they don’t like, whether it’s wasteful pork or foreigners or lazy welfare recipients. So when you tell them we have to start slashing government, they think, ‘Sounds great — it certainly won’t affect me!'”
- Wikileaks Shows Rumsfeld and Casey Lied about the Iraq War – The Daily Beast – Yeah, I know — there’s a shocker.
- The Limits of Smart Power
- Barton Says Antisemitism Not Playing a Role In TX Speaker Race – It’s not Anti-Semitism, it’s Pro-Christianism!
- What the right’s “American exceptionalism” attack on Obama is really about – “Let’s stipulate at the outset that there’s really no point in getting into a debate with right-wingers over the question of whether Obama believes in ‘American exceptionalism.’ That’s because the right intends this attack line as a proxy for their real argument: That Obama is not one of us.”
- One Senator’s modest proposal: Force Senators to actually filibuster – Sounds good to me.
- Pence’s priorities – “I think the minimum that we have to do right now for Americans that are struggling in unemployment in this economy is make sure that no American sees a tax increase.” Welcome to today’s compassionately conservative GOP.
- All 42 Senate Republicans announce hostage plan – “Also note the unstated truth behind the threat — Republicans will block literally everything until they’re satisfied, at which point, they’ll try to block literally everything anyway.”
- For Your Health This Thanksgiving, Smoke Camels – It would be remarkable that they could actually taste their dinner, chain-smoking this way.
- Vintage Cigarette Ads: “…a Lucky Instead of a Sweet” – I look forward to how today’s ads will be mocked by the future.
Unblogged Bits (Thu. 7-Oct-10 2330)
- Spread the Word — Hereditary Breast and Ovarian Cancer and Gene Patents – How the hell do you patent human genes?
- Why Fred Phelps’s Free Speech Rights Should Matter to Us All – Another example why the calumny that the ACLU is a “liberal/radical/leftist” organization is profoundly untrue. And, as loathesome as I find Phelps and his Gang of Family Idiots, if they don’t have the right to speak, nobody does.
- RWNJ’s Calling For Boycott Of Campbell’s For Making Halal-Certified Soup: Alan
- Giving the individual mandate real-world meaning – I believe I made this observation in my screed yesterday.
- The Original King of Irony Lives On – And yet, he seems to have made an amazing come-back in the GOP. what that says about the GOP I leave as an exercise for the reader.
- Senator Jim DeMint and Morality – NYTimes.com – Amen, Brother Nicholas.
- Random Book Blogging: Money, Greed and God – God is Ayn Rand. It’s now blindingly obvious to me. Or obviously blind. One or the other.
- Missouri Tea Partiers Campaigning Against Proposition Mandating Humane Conditions At Puppy Mills – They’re even against puppies …
- Newt Gingrich Believes Food Stamps Stimlulating The Economy Is “Liberal Math” – Dude, if even the Wall Street Journal accepts the math, give it a rest.
- A Revolution In Mobile Cup Holder Technology – Dunno if I’d call it a “revolution,” but it’s pretty cool.
- Stuxnet – I expect to see more things of this sort — regardless of the origins and targets of this particular instance — in the future.
- Neo-Cons: Don’t Touch Defense Spending! : Dispatches from the Culture Wars – Not to sound like that old Air Force Bake Sale bumper sticker, but, given our domestic needs … do we REALLY need to spend at Cold War levels on defense? Really?
- Technical Support Hell: Today I discovered an employee in my office sending Word docs via email by printing the document, scanning the pages, and emailing the scans. I don’t know where to start. – (Facepalm)
- Lou Dobbs’ Little Meg Whitman Problem – “The Nation also editorialized today that this latest revelation only adds more fuel to the arguments that immigrants, legal and undocumented, are so thoroughly integrated into our economy that those politicians who seek to scapegoat and demonize their work are almost alway engaging in hypocrisy. The piece argues that we must legalize and regulate this work, instead of demonizing the workers our society is thoroughly dependent on.” But … but … but … without evil, lazy, Welfare-sponging, American-decaptitating, job-stealing, anchor-babying illegals to demonize, we’d have to find someone else to demonize!
- So that’s why Koch funded a major evolution exhibit – “The fact that we could be knocked back to a stone age level of technology without going extinct is not a point in favor of welcoming global warming.” But think of the money-making opportunities! Especially if you cunning corner the shell and bead market ahead of time!
- Gap Already Admitting That New Logo Sorta Sucks – I vote for “crappy design work with quick, if cheesy, recovery attempt.”
Am I my brother’s fireman?
Bryan Fischer (courtesy of the American Family Association) is pleased to inform one and all that, faced with a fire on a house that hadn’t paid its fire protection bill … Jesus would have been happy to let the house burn.
A controversy has erupted over a decision by the South Fulton, TN fire department to allow a rural home in Obion County to burn to the ground because the owner did not pay the requisite $75 annual fee to secure fire protection.
The fire department was called when Gene Cranick’s grandson accidentally set his property on fire, but made no attempt to extinguish the flames, for the simple reason that they had no legal or moral authority or responsibility to do so. When the fire endangered the property of Cranick’s neighbor, who had paid the $75 fee, the fire department swung into action and put out the fire on the neighbor’s property. Cranick’s home meanwhile, burned to the ground after his family had fled for safety.
That actually raises the interesting question of what the fire service would have done (and what Bryan thinks would have been the moral course) had a family member (other than the pets, which died) still been trapped inside.
The backstory is that, while South Fulton had a fire department several years ago, the county did not. Rural residents approached city officials and asked them to extend their fire protective services outside city limits. Fine, said the city. We will provide fire services to any rural resident who pays an annual $75 fee. You pay the $75, you just bought yourself a year’s worth of fire protection. You don’t pay the fee, that’s fine too, it’s your choice, but be aware that you are making a deliberate choice to forego fire protection.
Fine, said Mr. Cranick, I’ll take my chances. He didn’t pay the man his $75, and when his house caught fire, he was on his own, by his own choice.
There’s no question that Mr Cranick was shortsighted.
(It’s worth noting that, had the fire department responded, it likely would have violated the terms of its contract with its liability insurance carrier. The fire department almost certainly had to enter into a legally binding commitment not to operate outside its jurisdiction. So our “compassionate” Christian friends would want the fire department to break its solemn agreement and put the entire city of South Fulton in a position of virtually unlimited risk. That hardly sounds like the Christian thing to do – demand that somebody violate a solemn oath and put an entire city at needless risk at the same time.)
So … legal contracts have a greater binding force than any other commitment or commandment? That sounds terribly Christian, Bryan.
That said, yes, the fire department probably had those sorts of contractual restrictions.
The fire department did the right and Christian thing. The right thing, by the way, is also the Christian thing, because there can be no difference between the two. The right thing to do will always be the Christian thing to do, and the Christian thing to do will always be the right thing to do.
If I somehow think the right thing to do is not the Christian thing to do, then I am either confused about what is right or confused about Christianity, or both.
That’s very convenient, Bryan. Whatever you think is Christian is clearly right, and whatever you think is clearly right then you enshrine as Christian.
On the other hand, I think you are confusing the legal thing with the Christian thing. Which is something Jesus certainly didn’t do.
In this case, critics of the fire department are confused both about right and wrong and about Christianity. And it is because they have fallen prey to a weakened, feminized version of Christianity that is only about softer virtues such as compassion and not in any part about the muscular Christian virtues of individual responsibility and accountability.
Yes, Jesus would have been muscular and punched the fire out.
Notice how compassion — one of Jesus’ most noteworthy attributes — is simply dismissed here as a “weak” and “feminized” and soft.” No metaphysical girl cooties for Bryan, though — he believes in Jesus by way of Ayn Rand.
The Judeo-Christian tradition is clear that we must accept individual responsibility for our own decisions and actions. He who sows to the flesh, we are told, will from the flesh reap corruption. The law of sowing and reaping is a non-repealable law of nature and nature’s God.
And yet, the New Testament explicitly rejects the harshest edges of that law. Paul, for example, makes it clear that if it comes to obeying the Law, no man can be saved. It is only by Grace — by God’s weak and soft and girly compassion — that salvation can be had. Similarly, we are called by Jesus to pray to be forgiven as we forgive others.
We cannot make foolish choices and then get angry at others who will not bail us out when we get ourselves in a jam through our own folly.
No. On the other hand, we are called on, as those others, to help with that bailing out. If I see someone behaving unsafely, I can simply shrug and say, “I guess he’ll learn soon enough.” We’re called to warn, to try and safeguard, and to compassionately help if the worst occurs.
Take some idiot who travels down an unsafe, lonely highway. He doesn’t wait to caravan with others, he doesn’t carry a gun in his glove box, he doesn’t hire a body guard, or pay $75 for the police to come by to protect him if he calls OnStar.
And, of course, he gets robbed and carjacked and beaten.
Bryan, of course, would argue the fool deserves everything he got. He made the stupid decisions, he has to live with it. He didn’t pay the $75, he didn’t make the smart choice, and, just like the other folks who zoom past, too busy or frightened or disinterested or scornful to assist, a truly muscular Jesus surely wouldn’t lift a finger for him.
Fortunately, the Good Samaritan felt differently. And soft, weak, girly, compassionate Jesus seemed to think that was the right course.
The same folks who are angry with the South Fulton fire department for not bailing out Mr. Cranick are furious with the federal government for bailing out Wall Street firms, insurance companies, banks, mortgage lenders, and car companies for making terrible decisions. What’s the difference?
Some of the same folks, yes. And Fischer has a something of a point here — the issue being that in the case of those various governmental bail-outs, they were done as much for the overall health of the economy and the citizenry as a way to reward bad actors in those various firms. (Honestly, I’d probably have been more onerous in the conditions placed, not so much as punishment, as tempting as that would have been, but to ensure it wouldn’t happen again. One can be compassionate and teach a lesson in responsibility.)
Mr. Cranick made a decision – a decision to spend his $75 on something other than fire protection – and thereby was making a choice to accept the risk that goes with it. He had no moral, legal, ethical or Christian claim on the services of the fire department because of choices that he himself made.
That’s right. Nobody has a “Christian claim” on me for anything. I have a Christian responsibility to help others. That’s a point that Fischer seems to miss. It’s not an matter of someone demanding an obligation from you. It’s a matter of your having an obligation toward others.
Jesus once told a parable about 10 virgins attending a wedding feast, five of whom failed to replenish the oil in their lamps when they had the chance. The bridegroom came when they were out frantically searching for oil, and by the time they made it back to the party, the door was shut tight. The bridegroom – the Christ figure in the story – refused to open the door, saying “Truly, I say to you, I do not know you” (Matthew 25:13).
Jesus also told a parable about how a shepherd will do anything to recover a stupid sheep that’s made bad decisions, acted foolishly, and wandered off, lost. The shepherd doesn’t shrug, say, “Well, that dumb sheep deserves whatever it got.”
The critics of South Fulton thereby implicate themselves as accusers of Christ himself, making him out to be both cold and heartless. They may want to be careful about that.
Right. “Agree with my point, or Muscular Jesus will punch your face!”
I talked about this story yesterday on my “Focal Point” radio program, and defended the fire department without reservation. It’s been intriguing to watch – I haven’t received as much angry blowback over anything I’ve said on air since the program began. I’ve been told I’m evil and anti-Christian to even suggest that the fire department may be in the right and that Mr. Cranick has no one to blame but himself. (Where, I might ask, is all their Christian compassion toward me?)
I’ll assume that’s tongue in cheek, Bryan.
But it is interesting. Apparently nobody among your followers bats an eye toward your bashing of gays, or Muslims, or anyone else who twists you the wrong way. But as soon as they see you doing something that they can imagine themselves being on the wrong side of … well, it’s little wonder how they abruptly realize how easily they could find themselves with the short end of the stick.
Christian compassion, of course, prompts us to feel truly sorry for Mr. Cranick. If he were a friend of mine, I’d feel horrible for him and do what I could to help him in his time of need.
Because compassion and helping is only for friends. Just what Jesus taught.
But even were I his friend, I would not blame the fire department for the loss of his home. That’s on Mr. Cranick for making an irresponsible choice in the first place.
Even he admitted to Keith Olbermann last night that “I’ll have to suffer the consequences” of failing to pay the annual fee.
Now it’s intriguing to note that Mr. Cranick had insurance on his property, and told Olbermann that his insurance company was right on top of things, and he was going to receive in short order the full value of his insurance policy. Why? Well, because Mr. Cranick paid the premiums on the policy. If he had refused to pay the premiums, he wouldn’t be getting any help from the insurance company either, and likewise would have no one to blame but himself. So even Mr. Cranick implicitly accepts responsbility for the loss of his home, whether he realizes it or not.
Sure. Cranick made a stupid error. People have lost everything over that. Hopefully Mr Cranick will learn.
But that doesn’t mean that the fire department acted in a Christian, or moral fashion. Legal, contractual fashion, sure. But the fire department — and the city fathers — ought to have something in place to account for this. More on that in a moment.
What angry folks fail to realize is that if Mr. Cranick had been able to get away with this – if he’d been able to wait til his house started to burn, then offer $75 and immediately get help – it wouldn’t be long before everybody else stopped paying. Why bother if you can wait until the emergency hits? If you pay when you don’t need to, that just makes you a sap. Pretty soon nobody would have fire protection at all since the city can’t afford to fight fires at $75 a pop. The city would have to withdraw its offer to the county, and everybody, especially responsible folk, would be less safe.
(Essentially what Mr. Cranick wants is “guaranteed issue” for fire protection. This is the same thing that is going to destroy the health care industry, as it is already starting to do under RomneyCare in Massachusetts. If you can wait til you get sick before applying for insurance, and the insurance company has to provide it, everybody will just wait til they get sick to get insurance and pretty soon nobody will have insurance or health care, either one.)
That’s a major problem with this kind of model — either you kick people in need to the curb, or you allow free riders to take advantage of the system.
What if, however, the there was a mechanism in place where someone could call for help at the last minute (or if the fire department just happened to be there), and pay a significantly higher fee (enough to recoup the added resources plus something to disincent folks from calling at the last minute as a strategy). Maybe the county should contract with the city’s fire department for full coverage.
(Note also that this is the rationale behind a universal requirement for everyone to purchase health coverage under the Affordable Care Act. Only by spreading the pool the widest and being ready to provide care for any who needs it when they need it, can the whole thing be both affordable and useful. But Bryan doesn’t like that model, nor, one suspects, the idea of fire departments providing service to all based on taxes rather than individual subscriptions.)
This story illustrates the fundamental difference between a sappy, secularist worldview, which unfortunately too many Christians have adopted, and the mature, robust Judeo-Christian worldview which made America the strongest and most prosperous nation in the world. The secularist wants to excuse and even reward irresponsibility, which eventually makes everybody less safe and less prosperous. A Christian worldview rewards responsibility and stresses individual responsibility and accountability, which in the end makes everybody more safe and more prosperous.
I’m going with mature, robust Christianity on this one.
Bryan, you have way too narrow of a vision here. You seem to feel that the only choices are between individual responsibility and being coddled. I think there’s room for both, and that siding with one vs. the other is a sketchy approach.
Further, Bryan, you miss the point that the two are not actually contradictory. Christian compassion is not a right to be claimed, but an individual responsibility for which we will be held accountable. We are called, not to demand the love of neighbors, but to love our neighbors, as one of the Greatest Commandments.
That may be hard to realize, Bryan, and you may commit the folly of neglecting that responsibility, of not, shall we say, paying your compassion “fee.” It does seem to me that you will be held accountable for that.
Hopefully you won’t face Muscular Jesus then.
(Oh, Glenn — same to you, buddy.)
Unblogged Bits (Wed. 15-Sep-10 2330)
- Top rates – Silly rational person … the point isn’t that what the top marginal tax rate will return to is still less than Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower, or FDR … is that it’s TAXES ON THE RICH. And that simply will not do!
- O’Donnell warned of “orgy rooms” in college dorms – War Room – Salon.com – Dagnabbit — I was in college in time for coed dorms, but I missed out on the inevitable orgies. Not fair!
- An Ecofascist Crescent Moon Near Ground Zero – “Blending environmentalism with Islam can only serve to strengthen the totalitarian ideals of the green movement. With modern environmentalism’s fixation on ecological holism that strictly views people and their economic activities as expendable, unbalanced, unsustainable and cancerous—this will only be greatly bolstered and strengthened by the totalitarian will of Allah. If modern western man is way out of line with regard to the environmental movement, just think what it will mean when Allah enters into the equation.” Muslims! Greem! Nazis! Malcolm X! Van Jones! Islamo-Eco-Terrorism! DOOOOOOM!
- Glenn Beck To Fat People: ‘I Say Let Them Die’ – Because that is, of course, just what Jesus would have suggested.
- Christine O’Donnell’s Website Stripped Of All Information – But … but … I thought she was all about Telling the Truth No Matter What?
- Media Treatment of Waterboarding: Is it Torture? – Our so-called liberal press …
- U.S. State Prison Population Decreases for the First Time in 38 Years – For a nation so dedicated to freedom and liberty, we sure do have a crapload of folks in prison.
- What if the Earth had rings? – Just as the oceans proved not too big to fill with junk, so, too, with space.
- On the Advice of the FBI, Cartoonist Molly Norris Disappears From View – Page 1 – News – Seattle – Seattle Weekly – I try to respect people’s sensibilities. But threatening someone with death for not doing so means you’re valuing an abstract idea and your emotional attachment to it more than a human life. And that’s just plain old wrong in my book.
- AMERICAblog Gay: DNC drops Obama’s promise to repeal DOMA, fails to mention marriage, then gets all weasel-y on DADT repeal – There’s no question that the cause of gay rights will suffer worse under the GOP and under the Democrats. But by taking these sorts of weaselly actions to try and not be a target for right-wing criticism, the DNC palpably reduces the enthusiasm (and activist support) of an important part of their base. It’s not that progressives are going to vote GOP — they’re just not, in aggregate, going to vote, or going to harangue their friends and family and co-workers to vote, or donate to the DNC. The party whose most famous and successful president talked about the greatest thing to fear being fear itself is, far too often, acting out of fear.
- I hate to be shrill and all, but the tea bagging GOP nominee for NY governor is a pig. (No offense to pigs.): noreply@blogger.com (digby)
- More Evidence Our Memory Stinks – With clear (and, among experts, understood) implications in both science and criminology.
- Anthropogenic Climate Change: It’s for real. – There is a significant consensus amongst scientists in appropriate fields — thousands of them — that this is real. Whereas the vast majority of the dissent comes from (a) scientists in unassociated fields who are (b) supported by parties (businesses) with a vested interest in denying that this is real. It’s certainly supported by enough evidence to try and act upon it.
- Aspartame – Truth vs Fiction – It’s sometimes interesting when “skepticism” collides with “skepticism.” Which just goes to show one should never grant a “skeptic” authority, but weigh the evidence for oneself. Which a true skeptic would appreciate.
- Dropping Kilometers From Highway’s Signs Divides Arizona – NYTimes.com – The US adherence to English units of measurement (which the English themselves have long since abandoned) is … sadly indicative. We’re exceptional, all right — but not all exceptions are a good thing.
- ‘Just As Much, If Not More, Evidence’ – Makes you wonder what Senatorial committee she wants to be on.
Unblogged Bits (Tue. 11-May-10 2000)
- USDA Tightens Chicken Rules – Damn bunch of socialists, interfering with the consumer’s right to buy tainted chicken! What would the Founding Fathers say?
- Humble Indie Bundle hits $1m, goes open-source, gets 4 day extension – I made a donation — worthy causes and some cool games.
- Going to Mars—sort of – I will definitely be keeping an eye out for information on contacting these people.
- Heavy rain may flood Front Range with 1.8 inches of precipitation tonight – The Denver Post – Thar’s a storm a-brewin’, boys!
- Perversely stupid (cont’d.) – “Constantly arguing in bad faith leads to thinking in bad faith and to living in bad faith, until bad faith is all you’ve got left. Calculation becomes habit, that habit supplants thought and one winds up in the perverse circumstance of earnestly arguing for the goodness of oil spills.”
- Palestinian Official: I Call Palestine ‘The New Philippines’ – Without disputing the damage that the Palestinians have done to their own cause, there’s little doubt that the Israeli government, through its support of ever-expanding settlements, is dealing in extremely bad faith (so to speak).
- Republicans And Right-Wing Media Push Myth That Kagan ‘Banned’ Military Recruiters From Harvard Law School – Let’s not let the truth get in the way of our talking points!
- Telecoms’ Secret Plan To Attack Net Neutrality: Target Video Gamers And Stoke Fear Of Chinese Censorship – Isn’t claiming that Net Neutrality is a government takeover of the Internet sort of like claiming the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a government takeover of the hotel industry?
- Kagan and military recruiters, redux – “The problem, of course, is that the criticism is factually wrong, a detail her detractors either don’t realize or choose to ignore.”
- Pew pew! For science! Lasers map ancient Mayan temples – Very cool.
- The Evolution of Privacy on Facebook – But heaven help you if you try to pull data out of Facebook.
- Cool collection of optical illusions – Flipper? I hardly know’er!
- You’re an asshole, not a genius – Queue jumpers are among the lowest forms of life. Turning your signal on doesn’t change that.
- Alabama, evolution, and the 21st century – Alabama is pretty far down on the list of places I’d be willing to visit, let alone live.
- Ending the ‘war on drugs’ – There’s certainly a role for law enforcement regarding drugs, but treating it as a “war” — complete with getting overly involved in military exploits overseas as well as spending zillions at home with little effect and filling our prisons without actually much impacting drug use or profits … well, that’s been a war we weren’t winning and can’t afford to keep fighting. If you can’t impact the supply, though, you can certainly try to impact the demand.
- Lowest taxes in more than a half-century – Money graf: “Looking ahead, tax rates more in line with the recent norm — say, tax rates of the 1990s, when the economy was strong and the budget was balanced — would do wonders to reduce the deficit the right pretends to care about.”
- King: If Gays Don’t Want To Be Discriminated Against, They Should Stay In the Closet – People only keep quiet about things they feel ashamed or fearful about. While I don’t expect my gay acquaintances to be going into graphic detail about their sexual escapades (I don’t expect my straight acquaintances to do so, either), I also don’t think they should have to hide the fact of their personal relationships.
- Schlafly: Obama Must Apologize to America For His “Poor Moral Tone” – As soon as she apologizes for being a pushing, judgmental, blithering ignoramus.
Unblogged Bits for Saturday, 24 October 2009
- Official First Family Portrait Released [Picture Perfect] – Nice photo. Though I’m sure someone will criticize it or trump up charges about it (“He’s slouching!” “Her smile looks fake!” “Wait, her hand’s been photoshopped!”)
- Mozilla’s Raindrop Looks To Make Your Inbox Personal Again – I think aggregation of messaging streams in this fashion is going to become a real battle in coming years — as individual messaging systems add features and aggregators try to demonstrate their (very real) value in pulling together this sort of data.
- BBC NEWS | Technology | Universal phone charger approved – Unfortunately, it’s not likely to be a primary reason for phone selection, but hopefully it will be a factor. Esp. if governments put a surcharge on those phones that don’t use it (to cover waste/energy costs).
- BBC NEWS | Middle East | Lashes for Saudi woman journalist – So, am I wrong in thinking that there are those in this country who would probably think this a good idea?
- BBC NEWS | Service for last Titanic survivor
- BBC NEWS | Europe | Rich Germans demand higher taxes – COMMIES!
- Language Map of Europe – Very, very cool.
- FW: Why Dogs Don’t Like Halloween – I’d say “long-suffering” fits the expression on most of these faces.
- PRELUDIUM: Let me get this straight… South Carolina did what? – So glad the Episcopal Diocese of S. Carolina has their priorities straight. [rolls eyes]
- Dallas police ticketed 39 drivers in 3 years for not speaking English | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Latest News – Yeesh.
- Obama Gets Tough Question From Fourth Grader
- Uninformed Hannity Tries To Provoke Culture War Over NYC Subway Atheist Ads – Sean Hannity misspeaking about something he has no experience with or knowledge about. Shocking, I know.
- John McCain — ‘Tech Troglodyte’ And Top Recipient Of Telecom Cash — Unveils Bill To Block Net Neutrality – For too many on the Right (ironically, including folks who are darlings of the “tea bag” set), freedom of expression means freedom for those who own the printing press — or, in this case, the “Internet (Provider) Freedom Act.”
- John McCain vs. the Internet – McCain seems determined to continually tear down any good will (or reputation for independence) anyone feels for him.
- Drama queens in South Carolina – Ah, South Carolina — in religion or in politics, a “peculiar” institution indeed.
- Badass Quote of the Day [Dispatches from the Culture Wars] – There are some very cool things about our country, things worth protecting and even worth promoting. But, yeah, American Exceptionalism is not only bad diplomacy, it’s a great way to deny the many things about our country that are not “the greatest* (and to deny the difference between the best and the best that could be). If no human can be perfect, how can any society of humans be perfect?
- Mikey Weinstein Gets Mail : Dispatches from the Culture Wars – That’s just delightful, folks. And an odd cherry-pick (let alone calling it a “commandment”) from a parable in Luke.
- Ad Placement Fail – Heh.
- Thousands Protest Global Warming – Think of the children!
Unblogged Bits for Monday, 19 October 2009
- Pieces Of Red State ‘Send Rock Salt To Snowy Clime, As A Protest’ Plan Falling In Place – That’s probably one of the goofier protests I’ve read about in a long time.
- PA GOP Replaces “O” In Obama’s Name With Hammer And Sickle – And this, children, is one reason why partisan court elections are such a bad idea.
- Does President Obama Care About Public Opinion On Afghanistan? – We neither want a President who is a slave to the polls, nor who disregards what the people think. A leader and a servant. It’s a very difficult role to play, and few Presidents have done it consistently well.
- NaNoWriMo: The Debbil’s Adbocate – Some useful perspective on NaNoWriMo … though it’s not going to stop me from doing it.
- Hollywood Waiter Claims Run-In With ‘Hung’ Star Cost Him His Job – omg! news on Yahoo! – Um … bitch about your job online, in an identifiable way, esp. about an identifiable client, and, yeah, that’s a likely reason to get fired. Unprofessionalism usually is.
- Why Wording Counts: Drea
- The 20 Best Windows Tweaks that Still Work in Windows 7 – Making a note to look at this after we do Win7.
- Jim Hill: Disney hits the reset button on Winnie the Pooh – Well-done is well-done. If they can take the character in a proven setting and tell good, solid tales with them, then it’s a great thing.
- Report: New DOJ guidelines to back medical marijuana laws – The Hill’s Blog Briefing Room – I am sure all true conservatives will be thrilled at this example of the Obama Administration’s support of states rights.
- Some Christians mad at R. Crumb – Unless they can point to some sex and violence he portrays that isn’t in the Book of Genesis, I suggest they leave off. If you’re going to argue that Scripture is the Directly Transcribed Word of God, then turning around and downplaying any aspect of it seems more than a bit suspect.
- Denounced as witches, African children suffer mightily – One wonders where Abp. Akinola, so fiery and frothing at the American church for embracing The Evil Gays, is in stopping these horrifying activities in his own back yard.
- Game of choice for extremists and eliminationists – ‘2011: Obama Coup Fails’ – It’s not so much that someone’s developed this game, but that (a) it’s so badly put together, and (b) so badly written. One could write this sort of thing semi-believably by turning the hyperbole-meter down to only 11, and be far more effective. (See Harlan Ellison’s “Glass Teat” column about the Resistance in a Nixonian Fascist State for a less breathless example — and we are talking Harlan Ellison here as a model for calm, which tells you how over-the-top this particular “game” is.)
- Perino admits the Bush administration essentially froze out MSNBC ‘towards the end.’: Matt Corley
- Byron Williams: Mormon Paradox – Money graf: “In this context, Oaks speaks as a member of the dominant culture who already has the privilege that others are trying to secure.”
- 10 Ways to Get Fired For Building Your Personal Brand – Lot of good advice here.
- Rep. Kingston Doesn’t Mention The Stimulus When Handing Out Stimulus Funds – Again, still, some more, thus demonstrating the demagoguery and hypocrisy of the GOP leadership on this issue.
- GOP Launches Strategy to Trip Up Health Bill – Roll Call – For “We need time to give the public a chance to figure out what’s in it and what they don’t like about it,” read, “We need time to scare the American public into acting against their best interests.”
- Man finds missile launcher in Comal County – I find it remarkable that it took as much effort as it did to get someone to take charge of the darned thing. I feel safer!
- Ninety Years of Refrigerators, and Logos – I love the classic script version, and think it still has traction in a more modern design era. The new one had potential, but really didn’t end up as anything all that noteworthy (and, if it isn’t, why bother?).
- Twitter Lists; Limitations, bugs, impact, and brilliance – On the one hand, this sounds like a great idea. On the other hand, yikes, yeah, what I need is a much longer list of people I’m following.
Unblogged Bits for Monday, 05 October 2009
- A Swift view of Andromeda – Whenever I see lovely pics of galaxies, the end titles music for the (original) Outer Limits always plays in my head.
- HAPPY Days or, Should Pets Be Tax Deductible? – Everyone has sacred cows — and when you’re a Congresscritter, of whatever party, you get to vote in tax advantages to them. I have pets, but I’d just as soon not get a tax deduction for them.
- Why American Credit Cards Suck [Travel Tips] – Yeah, we’re going to be the greatest country in the world right until we turn around one day and realize everyone else has left us behind.
- Photographers – Toughest Shot | Outside Online – Okay, I’m now cured of wanting to be a professional photographer.
- The Abuse Of American Exceptionalism – Amen, brother.
- Tolkien’s Monsters: Tonight, on the History Channel – If I can just remember the DVR … since this will no doubt be the only thing on History Channel ever to never to be repeated.
- Competitive Awesome: Yum…Camel Balls! – Extra sour!
- You know the name, but just who were the Luddites? – A little bit of noteworthy history.
- Happy 40th, Monty Python! (And Now, For Something Completely Different) – Certainly one of the great cultural influences of our time. At least in the subculture I inhabit.
- Great billboards – Nice hourglass.
- Product Ideas for Google Reader – Google Product Ideas – A great way to solicit (and vote on) feature ideas. Of the 2,000 ideas received, they’ve come up with responses (“Answered Ideas”) on a dozen … none of mine, alas.
- Busted burglar – I guess if you’re going to be burgled, it’s good to have a burglar with a sense of humor.
- Baked Ziti Recipe – Mmmmm … baked ziti …
- See my baby? O – M – G . – TEH CUTE!
- France Announces $2.2 Billion Electric Car Charging Network: Sarah Parsons
- Sputnik at 52: Ed Darrell
- Online Dating Advice: Exactly What To Say In A First Message – How to win friends and influence potential dates. Say “Howdy” and talk about zombies and atheism, not about how hot the other person’s picture looks. Ooookay.
- Parishioners asked to pay criminal defense of Rev. Don Armstrong – The Pulpit : Colorado Springs Gazette, CO
- Kristol Compares Obama’s Olympics Pitch To ‘George W. Bush-Like’ Bullying – “For them to be cheering America’s loss here on the right, I think is sort of disgusting.” Yup.
Why should we pay for your health care?
It’s all about the selfishness. The “I got mine — you fend for yourself to get yours.” The fear that someone might take “my stuff.” It’s the attitude of a four-year-old, and a poorly-raised one at that.
Vjack raises this interesting point:
Have you seen any of the clips from Rep. Lynn Jenkins’ (R-KS) July town hall? I was watching it the other night, and I think it contained a moment that perfectly sums up the Republican mind set when it comes to health care reform and most social programs. Jenkins received a great question from Elizabeth Smith, a constituent whose employer does not provide health insurance and cannot afford private insurance.
I want an option that I can pay for. I work. I pay my bills. I’m not a burden on the state. I pay my taxes. So why can’t I get an affordable option? Why are you against that?
It is a fair question at which Jenkins initially laughs and then responds in a condescending manner, suggesting that “people should…go be a grown-up and go buy the insurance.”
Right. “Grow up.” Belittle those who have fallen through the cracks. Assume it’s their moral failing, not our responsibility.
But none of this was what really got my attention.
No, even though Rep. Jenkins appeared to be saying something akin to “let them eat cake,” this was not the significant moment for me. That came when someone in the crowd could be heard shouting the following to Ms. Smith:
Why should we pay for your health care?
The horror! The idea that one might feel any obligation to care for another! That “I got mine” and that to help someone else get “theirs” would be tantamount to theft.
Isn’t it ironic that this is the sentiment of groups like Glenn Beck’s “9/12” organization, which ostensibly seeks to reinstill the spirit of pulling together like we did after the 9/11 attacks? Would it be right to say, “Hey, I didn’t get trapped in a building? Why should we pay for someone to dig you out?”
“Why should we pay for your health care?”

Maybe this story will be illustrative:
And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother’s keeper? And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground.
Decades of GOP rabble-rousing about “welfare queens” and “illegals stealing our jobs” and “deadbeats who won’t work” have turned the idea of a compassionate society (let alone a “compassionate conservatism”) into a joke. People are so angry, or so selfish, or so frightened, that they’d just as soon see others die, or be crippled, or be driven to bankruptcy, than lend a hand. They see nothing wrong with telling people to “let them buy insurance,” or to insist that anyone who wants care can get it by going to the Emergency Room.
“Why should we pay for your health care?”
As a literary character put it.
“At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge,” said the gentleman, taking up a pen, “it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.”
“Are there no prisons?” asked Scrooge.
“Plenty of prisons,” said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.
“And the Union workhouses?” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?”
“They are. Still,” returned the gentleman, “I wish I could say they were not.”
“The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?” said Scrooge.
“Both very busy, sir.”
“Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,” said Scrooge. “I’m very glad to hear it.”
“Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,” returned the gentleman, “a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?”
“Nothing!” Scrooge replied.
“You wish to be anonymous?”
“I wish to be left alone,” said Scrooge. “Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don’t make merry myself at Christmas and I can’t afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned: they cost enough: and those who are badly off must go there.”
“Many can’t go there; and many would rather die.”
“If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Besides — excuse me — I don’t know that.”
“But you might know it,” observed the gentleman.
“It’s not my business,” Scrooge returned. “It’s enough for a man to understand his own business, and not to interfere with other people’s. Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!”
“Why should we pay for your health care?” Why should we mind others business? Why should we be our brother’s keeper?
Because morality — Christian, among many others — demands it. Because it is what we should want to do — to love our neighbors as we love ourselves, as someone once put it. Because a society cares for one another, holds a social contract to stand together, so that life is not, as Hobbes put it, “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”
Because it’s the right thing to do.
Do I hate cheats? Sure. Do I get pissed off at deadbeats? Of course. Do I worry that some person who doesn’t “deserve it” will get something paid for with my taxes, earned by the “sweat of my brow”? Yeah, I do.
But my offended sense of fairness is trivial compared to the thought that people’s lives may be ruined, or lost if I don’t help. If once I have “mine,” my greatest imperative is to keep it at any costs, which means throwing anyone else off the sleigh, then I can hardly claim any moral high ground — unless it’s morality as defined by Ayn Rand.
So have we come to the point that John Galt wins? Where everything is a matter of who comes out at the top of the zero-sum game of “all against all”? Where all that matters is that, for this moment at least, “I’ve got mine, and if you try to take it, I’ll frackin’ kill you, man!”
Is that what your parents taught you? Is that what your church teaches you? Is that how you treat your neighbors? Is that the lesson you want to pass on to your children?
And if your children fall through the cracks, if despite working hard they (or their children) fall ill, and can’t afford insurance, or the treatment they need, will you ask them, “Why should we pay for your health care?”
It’s the right thing to do.
Denver Tea Party – notes from the ground
After a bite to eat, I headed down to the “Tea Party” going on at the capitol steps. There were a fair number of headed-to-protest folks on the free Mall shuttle headed down the 16th Street Mall (dirty socialist RTD freeloaders …). I got off and followed the pedestrian traffic flow.
- The folks rounding the corner were surprised and pleased by the number of people on the steps of the capitol. As the picture shows, they pretty much filled up the grassy slope west of the building, down to the sidewalk, though that was all. Folks across the street were either counter-protesters, police, or looky-loos like myself.
- The sound system was pretty bad, but it seemed to serve the folks in attendance. As I approached, I could hear folks being exhorted by someone discussing the Evils of the Current Regime, punctuated by the crowd shouting, “No We Can’t.” Cute.
- Most of the people I saw were middle-aged-plus (say mid-30s to late-50s).
- Comment from someone at the crosswalk. “Remember, if you see any ‘acorns,’ step on them.” Cute.
- Many “Don’t Tread on Me” flags, which was thematically appropriate; they rivaled American flags in number. Lots of protest signs of various sorts, with all the standard slogans. Some Ayn Rand references. Calls for the “Fair Tax.” Anger at bailouts, at the financial sector, at the UAW, at Congress, at Obama. Pretty much all about the anger, except for the occasional chant of “USA! USA! USA!”
- Rather tasteless speech using “I Have a Dream” as its theme. I’m not sure Rev. King would approve.
- Saw a lady with “Cut Taxes, Reduce Spending, Protect Traditional Values, Secure the Border” t-shirt. I wondered if a “Feed the Hungry, Give Drink to the Thirsty, Clothe the Naked, Shelter the Homeless” t-shirt would be as welcome.
- “We Demand Liberty!” shouted the guy at the microphone in front of the statehouse to the crowd assembled. Didn’t see anyone’s irony-meter quivering, unfortunately.
- Went back to the office, buying some coffee along the way.
Unblogged Bits for Friday, 10 April 2009
- Massively webcomic: Grinders – Limitless Creativity – Hmmmm … definitely need to look into doing this in the new City of Heroes Mission Architect.
- Internet Micro-Fame Is A Drug – Okay, this needs to be sent to every artist, athlete, writer, actor, politician, and anyone else who achieves fame for their accomplishments. Bloggers could use it, too.
- Get That Man A Straitjacket, Stat – Yikes. Glenn Beck keeps getting nuttier. Unless that’s his way to differentiate himself from Limbaugh and Hannity (who are nutty in their own way, but without the weepiness).
- To hell with the Simpsons – Ah, frivolous use of copyright law and DMCA take-downs. Is there no geeky joy you cannot turn to hatred?
- Weed Cures Cancer! [Dude] – Is marijuana a miracle cure? No, but it’s no more ridiculous to say that it has no medical value, as Congress declared by fiat. Alas, the “War on Drugs” continues to claim its victims via zero tolerance, even among those who never take a toke.
- Review: A fantasy hero embraces his inner Mel Brooks in Krod Mandoon – I will have to watch at least one ep of this, just to be sure, but the ads for it have left me with absolutely no desire to do so — indeed, with an aversion toward same.
- Rabbi Michael Lerner: Pharaohs Can’t Celebrate Passover: Rabbi Michael Lerner
- Bye-bye, Dubai – There’s something very epic and extreme about Dubai — sort of the ultimate expression of wealth and capitalism. That makes its current collapse all the more intriguing, tragic, gratifying, and fascinating.
- Summed up – If you promise to blog about the secret once discovered, Doyce, I’ll be ever-so-grateful.
- 194 years since the great Tambora eruption [Eruptions] – But let’s be sure that we don’t frivolously waste money on that so-called “volcano monitoring.”
- Rove Attacks Obama For Praising Turkey’s ‘Secular Movement,’ Even Though Bush Made Similar Statements – So is he a Crypto-Islamicist or a Crypto-Secularist? I keep getting confused by the competing narratives. Oh, wait, I get it — the specifics don’t matter. He’s just EVIL!
- Op-Ed Contributor – Iowa’s Family Values – NYTimes.com – Family values can, indeed, be important. But they’re not what has always been touted by pundits as same.
- PETA to Pet Shop Boys: Rescue Shelter Boys, perhaps? – CNN.com – Wow. That’s pretty darned goofy.
- Will Fox Air Dollhouse’s Final Episode or Not? – E! Online – Wow. More Fox zaniness. Okay, I guess this makes sense. Bottom line: Ep 13 will be on the DVD but not on TV, but the show isn’t cancelled. Yet. Clear as mud.
Presidential Debate #3
Yikes! Noting like turning on BBC first thing in the morning and running into … the last Presidential Debate!? A few notes (coming in a little late): Um, attacking…

Yikes! Noting like turning on BBC first thing in the morning and running into … the last Presidential Debate!?
A few notes (coming in a little late):
Um, attacking McCain’s health care plan is not an “attack ad” on McCain. Get serious.
Obama brings up the problems at the McCain/Palin rallies. McCain tries to turn it into an attack on veterans and all his supporters. “I’m proud” of them. Sure, a few fringe, we’ve “always” said it’s inappropriate?
Ayers thing comes up. McCain is all “I don’t care, but WE NEED TO KNOW!” Obama addresses the whole Ayers/ACORN thing very simply, plainly, effectively. McCain just repeats the charge.
Obama lauds Biden. McCain lauds Palin. Reformer! Breath of fresh air! (!) Reformer! And, um … special needs! Reformer! Obama won’t attack her directly — it’s up to the American people. Capable politician and special needs, that’s nice. But, of course, special needs are going to require added funding, and an across-the-board freeze would hurt that. McCain says Biden is qualified, but has voted wrong a lot (against GW I, in favor of partitition).
McCain turns the special needs thing into SPEND, SPEND, SPEND! And raising people’s taxes!
Energy. We can eliminate dependence on Middle Eastern and Venezuelan oil (Canada is okay). Nukes — store and reprocess (!). Nuclear power plants on navy ships is okay, safe, no problem! (Eek!) Obama — reduce in 10 years, that’s realistic. Biggest problem right now. Yeah, making some domestic drilling, but that’s not it alone. Glancing at notes. Alternates. Domestic US high-mileage car — that’s something we can work on.
NAFTA. Free trade cool, but Bush admin is “any trade treaty is a good trade treaty.” Environmental and labor concerns. Car imbalance in South Korea. McCain attacks because Obama’s only “looking at” offshore drilling. Free trade cool — and we need more (Columbia!) — and Obama hasn’t traveled — and Columbia free trade agreement Obama opposes, and they are helping us on the war on drugs! Travel down there! Neener! Obama notes violations and killings in Columbia’s labor movement — need to stand up for human rights. Need a president who likes free trade but who will stand up in the face of problems.
Need to lean on automakers — provide some loan support, but also get them to do both more fuel-efficient cars and other manufacturing alternate energy stuff. McCain: doesn’t want free trade with our good ally, but willing to SIT ACROSS THE TABLE WITH HUGO CHAVEZ! He wants to restrict trade and raise taxes! Hoover!
Controlling health care costs over expanding coverage? Obama, need to do both and that’s what our plan does. Anecdotes. Describes plan. Like what you have, great; otherwise, get to join the federal employee pools, preexisting conditions, negotiate on drugs, IT, preventive care … (all good, probably insufficient). Costs money, but long-term savings. McCain: Fines if you don’t have health care! Health care bureaucracies! Single payer system! Canada and England! Obama: No, just described. Joe the Plumber pays zero — exempting small business. Just larger businesses — who are dumping costs into Medicare of uninsured.
And the McCain plan. $5K plan — employers will dump 20mn people, higher pool costs, taxing people health care benefits, $5K doesn’t cover squat vs $12K. And it strips state-based rules, cherrypicking and excluding insured. McCain: mangles the small business thing. Mandates! Big government! 95% of people will get more money under my plan — current (taxed) benefits, plus $5K, except gold-plated cadillac coverage. Democrats! Government spending! They’ve been in charge the last two years!
Obama: You just heard my plan. US Chamber of Commerce has condemned McCain plan.
Roe v Wade! Could you nominate someone to the SCOTUS who opposed you? McCain – I’ve never had a litmus test. But it’s a bad decision. State-based decisions. Nominate based on qualifications, not a litmus test. I voted for Breyer and Ginsburg. Obama voted against Breyer and Roberts because they weren’t ideologically right. Strict adherence to constitution. I believe in quals — not a litmus test, but can’t imagine Roe v Wade support being strict adherence to constitution. (So … what’s the difference?)
Obama: Not a litmus test, but Roe v Wade was right. Abortion is very difficult, a moral issue, good people on both sides — but women are in the best position to make this decision. Right to privacy, not subject to state referendum, any more than First Amendment is. Pulls decision over the the Lilly Ledbetter decision; I supported the effort to change law, and McCain opposed it. McCain: trial lawyer’s dream! And we need courage and compassion to help women. Attacks Obama record for what he supported or voted “present” on all sorts of “pro-abortion” things. Obama: explains the situation on the Illinois votes, clearly. Abortion issue divides us — but surely there is common ground we can try to prevent unintended pregancies, through better education, adoption, etc. All in the Democratic platform this year. McCain: “Health of the mother” is a weasel phrase. Dinging Obama’s “eloquence.”
Education. We spend more per capita than any nation, but math and science K-12 trail the world.
Obama: Huge economic and national security issue. We need to invest — early childhood education, proven benefits. Recruit new teachers. Graduate debt. And parents need to be responsible. McCain: civil rights issue of the 21st century (?). Equal access to schools, but failed schools. Choice and competition among schools. Charter schools. Merit pay for teachers. Fire bad teachers. Need to provide folks school choice. More money not the answer — worst schools get most money (!). State certification rules inflexible. More student loan and affordable ones, and key to inflation.
Federal government / money? Obama – tradition of local control is good, but feds need to step up and help. NCLB, but money left behind, unfunded mandates. Ditto with special ed. Also need a way to get rid of bad teachers, yeah. But vouchers don’t secure problems with education. And McCain’s record against college affordability, dinged as an “interest group.” McCain: vouchers in DC cool, and you’re ignoring that example! NCLB – first beginning. Head Start not doing the job, need to reform and fund, but Dems oppose. Need reform! Transparancy! Accountability! Funding! Autism — I have Sarah Palin! We’ll fund and spend the money to research, and Americans will support that. I will fund stuff that is useful. Vouchers! Obama circles back to vouchers in DC. McCain’s voucher plan only expands the DC voucher program. Need to look at it nationwide.
Final statements.
McCain: Thanks, thanks. Need a new direction beyond last 8 years. Reformer! (Not Maverick, Refomer, I guess). Long record. Steward of tax dollars. Health care. Education. Stop spending. It’s all based on trust of you on steward of dollars, security, prosperity. My entire life in service of this nation, country first, long line of McCains, honor of my life, hope you’ll give me an opportunity.
Obama: Thanks. Tough times. Last 8 years, and decades of neglect from Congress. Biggest risk is to adopt the failed policies and politics of last 8 years. Fundamental change. Last 20 months — invited me in, fundamental generosity and decency. Need to invest in American people, tax cuts, education, health care, energy economy, policies to increase middle class. Not going to be easy or quick, but we need all come together.
Summary: Not much of a winner on points from either side. Obama was calm and cool, didn’t respond to needling, held his own rhetorically, addressed (in too much detail) some outstanding issues. McCain recycled a lot of standard talking points, stood his ground on the same ones even when addressed.
The more intimate across-the-table format probably favored McCain — no walking the stage, more “intimate.” There was definitely more interplay and interruptions between the two.
The McCain rhetoric was basically, “I’m a reformer, he’s a spender. I’m not about personal attacks, but he needs to answer these charges. Oh, I’m a reformer, by the way — here are a few more talking points and buzz words.” The Obama rhetoric was essentially, “Here is my plan, here’s how his plan won’t work, here’s the mystery explained, let’s band together.”
Not surprisingly, given the tenor of the campaign, Obama, the outsider and party-changer, seemed a bit more — if not assured of victory, then certainly the front-runner. He seemed presidential, despite McCain’s snarky and repeated snipes at his “eloquence.” McCain was the “feisty underdog” again, but didn’t seem to be able to raise his points without dragging the conversation kicking and screaming to make them.
I’d give the debate slightly to Obama overall, though it was by no means a blow-out. Most importantly, I don’t see anything happening here likely to take away the momentum and lead that the Obama campaign holds.
VP Debate
First, the semi-liveblogging Event/Moderator Biden Palin Gwen Ifill intro. Strong and well-spoken. 5 minute segments, 90 seconds initial, then follow-ups. Questions by her. Smiling pol. …
First, the semi-liveblogging
Event/Moderator | Biden | Palin |
Gwen Ifill intro. Strong and well-spoken. 5 minute segments, 90 seconds initial, then follow-ups. Questions by her. | Smiling pol. | Smiles. Blow kiss. “Can I call you Joe?” “Thank you.” mic carries. |
Bail-out bill and Congressional mess. Worst or best of Washington . | 1. Thanks. Pleasure to meet you, Governor. Ties back to this Administration, lack of Administration. Lots of looking at notes. Palin is looking down at her notes while Biden speaks. Gives Obama’s stance – what he called for. Voice sound hoarse. He was coughing after he came on. Middle Class! | 2. Thanks. privilege. Looking at the camera! Go to a kid’s soccer game – how are you feeling about the economy. Fear, I’ll betcha! Fear about losing investments. Biden is watching her. Government hasn’t been giving firm oversight. Looks nervous. John McCain has been all about warning bells and reform of financial markets for years. His bipartisan efforts to bring folks together this past week, even suspending his campaign! |
Being VP? How reducing polarization? | 1. Been doing that whole career – VAWA, more cops on street, genocide inBosnia . Have been able to reach across the aisle. Then returns to previous question. McCain “fundamentals are strong” and “made great economic progress” – then backed down within hours. Doesn’t make him bad, just out of touch. | 2. John in referring to fundamentals talking to/for the American work force. They’re spiffy! As a mayor and governor, record of reform, team of mavericks, putting partisan politics aside. Obama has only voted along party lines – 96% of votes. Tired of the old politics, with all due respect, respect your years, but people are craving something new and different. Maverick of the senate. |
Subprime lending meltdown/ Who’s at fault? | 2. 2 years ago Obama warned about subprime problem. McCain said at the same time he was surprised by it. McCain was saying that he was always for cutting regulations. McCain thought lettingWall St running wild was right – deregulate. Republican response. And wants to deregulate the health care industry like he did the financial industry. High prices of gas – anecdote about someone. 4. Charge not true. McCain voted the same way as Obama, didn’t raise it. Standard by governor, McCain voted 477 times to raise taxes. But she didn’t answer questions of deregulation and John McCain supporting it. | 1. Starting. Predator lenders deceiving, greedily. Corrupt Wall Street. We have that commitment to stop that. Still looking at camera. Blink. Blink. Blink. Joe Sixpack, Hockey Moms, resolving we’ll never be exploited again. And we need to be responsible about not getting into debt, too. 3. Darn right we need tax relief. Obama and Biden are in favor of largest tax increases inUS history, siding on the people’s side, 94 times voting to increase or not support decreases. Government has to live with less. Increasing taxes for families making $42K. 5. I’m gonna talk straight to the American people. Reduced taxes every year as mayor, and reduced taxes as governor. McCain is known for pushing for stronger regulations. Biden smiling. |
Taxes. Dems raising taxes on those over $250K. Class warfare? GOP taxing health benefits, taking it out on the poor? | 1. It’s about fairness. The middle class is struggling under McCain’s tax proposals. Households get no break in taxes. Nobody under $250K will see taxes increase. And most under $150K will get a tax break. middle class is the economic engine. Now he looks at the camera. McCain wants to cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations, but nothing for middle class. He looks a bit pale. People will pay no more than. 3. Where to start. It’s not redistribution of wealth to not give Exxon a $4bn tax credit, that’s fairness. 95% of small business make < $250K – no increase in taxes. Giving, but also taking. McCain pays for his $5K by taxing as income the health care benefits. $5K plan will go straight to the insurance company, replacing a $12K plan for the 20mn who will be dropped from health care. Ultimate bridge tto nowhere. | 2. Redistribution of wealth principle. Obama’s plan to tax increase – forgetting the millions of small businesses that will be hit by those taxes. You said that paying higher taxes is patriotic – middle class disagrees, government is the problem, Joe Sixpack says. Increased tax formula and trillion dollars of spending. And McCain’s health care plan is detailed, and here are some talking poins. $5K tax credit, while Obama will mandate universal government run program. Evil Feds! Evil! Laugh. McCain suggestion is budget-neutral. Artificial lines between states, competing between states. |
What promises – given the bailout plan – will yo not be able to keep. | 1. May have to slow down commitment to double foreign assistance. And will nto go forward with McCain tax proposals and the existing ones ($130bn this year alone), and all the other bns of tax cuts. Will not hold up on incentives by new jobs with an energy policy, education, nor affordable health care. Stumbling in speech to cover all his points. Oh, yeah, $100bn tax dodge to move post office boxes offshore to avoid taxes, and *that’s* unpatriotic. 3. Obama voted for an energy bill that had support for alternative energy. He voted to eliminate tax breaks, while McCain did not. Why is McCain adding into his budget more tax cuts for ExxonMobils? Yeah, Palin supported a windfall profits tax. We want to do the same thing. McCain does not. he wants to give tax cuts on top of their profits. Hope she can convince McCain to do it. | 2. McCain doesn’t tell one thing to one group and another thing to another group. Back to the energy plan. Obama voted in 05, that’s what gave those energy companies those tax breaks. And I had to take on those oil companies, no greed in my state! Corporate CEOs are not my favorite fans! The people come first! Value to the people ofAlaska ! No tax breaks to multinationals when it affects the people who live there. I had to undo what Obama did in my area of expertise, energy. No, there’s nothing that I’ve promised I’d have to give back – because I haven’t had time to do more than to promise to be a paragon of virtue and a hard fighter. And McCain will keep all his promises, too. Yay! |
Congress passed bankruptcy reform. McCain supported … | 2. [Moderator: Biden voted for it, Obama against it.] Only 10% of people affected from Chapter 7 to 13 … we disagreed on it. But Obama pointed out 2 years ago that there was a subprime mortgage crisis, and warned treasury. McCain just last year said he was surprised by the crisis. What should we be doing about bankruptcy? The bankruptcy courts should be able to adjust the rates and principal owed. They don’t support that, nor does Bush, even though it would help people. | 1. Yes, I would have supported it. But there have been such changes and revelations of corruption onWall St . McCain was calling for reform even back then! We have him to tank for warning people, and bringing in a bipartisan effort, putting the campaign aside, to fix the problem, the crisis, the toxic mess onMain St affectingWall St . 3. No, that’s not true. But … energy! I want to talk about energy policy plan! We have to consider how we let this nation become energy-independent. We have domestic supplies of energy, and east coast politicians keep patriotic Alaskans from tapping into those resources, helping those foreign countries that don’t like us to mock us! Evil! Energy independence! Energy plans are not just about tax breaks. |
Energy issues. Climate change. What’s true and false? | 2. Clearly manmade. Biggest difference between all of us. If you don’t understand the cause, you can’t come up with a solution. It’s man-made. That’s the cause. We have 3% of the reserves, we consume 25% of the oil. McCain has voted against alternative, clean energy sources. By investing in clean coal and safe nuclear we can build wind and solar and export that stuff – but we could export that technology toChina to help that pollution, and it would create jobs. McCain has voted 20 times against alternative energy sources. Drill we must, yeah, but 10 years for any of that oil to flow. 3. Clean coal. My record is supporting it for 20 years. I was talking about exporting that technology toChina . If the only answer is oil, how does that cap carbon emissions? | 1. As the natoin’s only arctic state,Alaska sees the impact moreso than any other state, we know it’s real. I won’t attribute the changes all to man, but part is cyclical climate changes, but there are real changes. Don’t want ot argue the causes. How do we “positively affect the impacts”? First governor to have a climate change impacts. McCain agrees with this. We have to be energy independent. We rely on other countries that pollute more than we do! Tap into alternatives, conserving petroleum products and hydrocarbons so we can babble babble babble. 2. Caps on carbon emissions, McCain supports. Chant is drill baby drill. People are hungry for those domestic sources. Even inAlaska we have millions of barrels of oil. Clean, green natural gas. (!) Pipeline. Obama/Biden — offshore drilling is raping the continental shelf?! It’s safe to drill! McCain also voted for alternatives. Nucular! Clean coal – you said no! Yes, I support capping carbon emissions. |
Support same-sex benefits to couples as in Alaska ? | 1. Absolutely, positively. No distinction form a constitution and legal standpoint between same-sex and hetero couples. constitutional issue. It’s only fair. We do support that committed couples and same-sex marriage have same constitutional benefits for insurance, visitation, etc 2. We do not support gay *marriage*. That’s a decision for faiths. Take the governor at her word that there should be no civil rights distinction. If that’s the case, we have no disagreement. | 2. Not if it goes closer and closer to “marriage.” I would certainly be tolerant of people choosing their partners and relationships. I have diverse family and friends, and some dear friends don’t agree with me. but nobody would ever propose in our administration to prohibit visitations in hospitals. But I don’t support defining marriage etc etc etc. Being straight-up (ha!) with Americans. 4. Yes, I don’t support gay marriage. |
Foreign policy. Sons in or on the way to Iraq . Clear plan to exit strategy. | 2. I didn’t hear a plan. Obama has offered on. It’s what the PM ofIraq and Bush are negotiation. The only one left out is McCain. And Obama not funding? McCain voted the same way, when it had a time table in it, and he voted against funding for it. Barack and I agree that you need a time line to draw down troops, shift responsibility, spending tons of money. We will end this war. For McCain there is no end in sight. 4. John McCain voted against funding the troops – he voted against a bill I had put together that had NRAPs for protecting troops because it had a time line. McCain / Cheney, when I was saying that this war would be a mess, were saying that everything would be happy there, we’d have oil to pay for it, he’s been dead wrong, I love him, but he’s been dead wrong, and Obama has been right. | 1. Glad we have a good plan. Surge! Yay! Petreus! Yay! Mccain! Surge opposed surge! Opposed funding troops! Respected Biden when he called him out on it. Obama said he would not, and he turned around and voted against it. We have a plan for withdrawal. Not early! No, we have to win! But the surge thathas worked, we are at pre-syurge numbers, and we can put more troops inAfghanistan , and we have to grow our military, and fight Shia extremists, and we cant’s quit! 3. Um … your plan is a white flag of surrender. Our troops don’t need ot hear that! You opposed the surge, and won’t admit it worked. We’ll know when we’re finished whenIraq can do it themselves, and our commanders will tell us when. And Biden said you’d be willing to run on McCain’s ticket! You also said Obama was not ready to be C-in-C. Respect for your family having a son in the national guard. Any one who can cut off funding for troops, evil! |
Iran andPakistan – nuclearIran or unstable Pakistan ? | 1. Both dangerous. I;ve focused for a lon g time onPakistan because they have nuclear weapons. Iran would be dangerous, but not close to getting it. Both would be dangerous. John keeps saying the central front on terror is inIraq – but if another attack happens, it will come from alQuaeda inAfghanistan andPakistan . We need to support those governments. We should be building them schools, not madrassas. And we’ll get Osama. | 2. Petreus said that the central front inIraq . Believe him. So does alQaeda. Nucular-armedIran is toooooo dangerous. Cannot allow. Israel in danger! Iran is mean! Can pronounce Akmandinijad. But not nucular. Obama will meet with preconditions. That’s not naïve, that’s dangerous! Those bad guys should not be met with without preconditions. |
Baker, Kissinger, Powell, etc., have all advocated engagement with enemies. Are they wrong? | 2. This is just not true. obama didn’t say he would. McCain is goofy saying Akmandinijad controls the security apparatus. It’s nifty that they want to bring our friend sna allies along, but they’ve been saying we should sit down and talk, and Mccain will go along with an agreement but won’t sit down and talk down and talk with our enemies. Even Bush is doing that! And Mccain said he wouldn’t even sit down with the government ofSpain ! | 1. I had a great conversation with Kissinger recently. His passion for diplomacy. We’d do that. But with these dictators who hateAmerica and freedom and women’s rights and stuff. They cannot be met with as Obama said he would be willing to do, etc. etc. etc. But diplomacy is hard work, sanctions lined up, friends backing up. |
Israel ? What has this administration done right or wrong? | 2. Nobody has been a better friend ofIsrael than Joe Biden (3rd person). Obama is the same. This administration has been an abject failure; Rice is trying to turn around a bad series of policy decisions by the Administration. Iran is on the march, including inLebanon andGaza . We will backIsrael in negotiating. 4. Past is prolog. How different will McCain policy will be different than Bush onIran , orIsrael , orAfghanistan , orPakistan . (Great lines!) And we know where that has taken us. We will make significant change so that we are the most respected nation in world. | 1. Two state solution ins the solution. Secty Rice is trying to forge that peace. That needs to be done. And that will be a top of the agenda item. We need to assureIsrael there will never be a second holocaust, despiteIran . We want a two state solution, and building an embassy inJerusalem . That commitment is there. 3. No, this Admin hasn’t been an abject failure. But glad Biden loves Israel. Lookning backward and blame game, people will get tired of that. Yeah, blunders in the past, but change means looking forward, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Government on the side o the people, no partisanship, McCain rah! Maverick! Biden loves him! Change is coming! |
Interventionism. Nuclear weapons. When? | 2. Afghanistan . Facts matter. Our commanding general there said today that the surge Will Not Work There. That’s not Biden. That’s the commander there. We need more troops, spending. We spend more money on combat iniraq in 3 weeks than the last 7 years inAfghanistan . Repeat. Arms control and weapons – nuclear weapons require an arms control regime. McCain voted against the test ban treaty. He’s opposed inspections in the treaty. Obama, first thing he did, raced across the aisle to Dick Luger about preventing nukes to terrorists, they put together legislation, and McCain oppoed. 4. Yes, he did say that. And while we’ve been calling for more money fand troops forAfghanistan , McCain says we’ve succeeded there. | 1. That would be be-all, end-all of too many blather blather incoherency. We have a deterrent, safe, those country likeNorth Korea , we need to put economic sanctions, friends, allies, to make sure they don’t acuiqre, proliferate, use nukes. Afghanistan . The surge principles ofIraq need to be implemented inAfghanistan . Reckless comments from Obama – we’re doing keen things and helping children and puppy dogs and we’ll win. 3. McClellan did not say the surge principles wouldn’t apply. The conditions are different. But the counterinsurgency principles could work. [Yes, he did.] [Could not hear what she was saying because Margie was yelling at Palin.] |
Biden – interventionist in Serbia, Iraq, nowDarfur . Will American public back? | 1. America will support success.Bosnia saved 10Ks of lives. McCain opposed it. People didn’t believe it would work, but it has. InIraq , I voted for the power to let Bush have the power to continue sanctions, etc., but argued against the war, but McCain said it would all be okay. Darfur – we can impose a no-fly zone, we can lead NATO, I’ve been there, horrible suffering, we should rally the world to act, and demonstrate it by helping. | 2. I’m aWashington outside, obviously – you voted for it, but now you’re against it. Americans want straight talk. You supported McCain’s war strategies before this candidacy. And Obama cut funding for troops! I agree onDarfur . What I’ve done is we’ve taken a fund and divested funding fromSudan … or will, once the legislation has passed.. |
When do we decide to go in? | 1. When we have the capacity to act. When a country does these evil things, that country forfeits right to not be intervened on. But I never supported McCain’s strategy on the war, which were the same with Cheney. I said that war would be a real mess. I said all these things. McCain wa sin lockstep with Cheney. Not just whether to go, but support for the conduct of the war. | 2. Disagree. Did you support Obama or McCain … we listened to the debates and we’ll have some fact checking in the morning. McCain knows how to win a war, he’s had the experience, etc. he will now how t implement strategies, listening to commanders, taking the politics out of war issues. |
Heartbeat away. You disagree on some things with your principles. How would your admin be different. | 1. God forbid. A national tragedy. I would carry out Obama’s policies. Supporting middle class, even break, health insurance, etc. etc etc. Energy policy, jobs, foreign policy to ends war and gets bin Laden and engages our allies, rejecting the Bush Doctrine (and what it is, nice!). This is a critical election, most important since 1932. I believe in every major initiative he is suggesting. 2. Go downUnion Street , folksy stuff. Ask about economic and foreign policy has helped them, and if McCain really differs from them, and they don’t think so. People in my neighborhood get it. Walk with me in my neighborhood,Scranton , steel town. Middle class has gotten short end, wealthy etc. | 2. Heaven forbid, for either party. Team of mavericks will not agree on everything. I will keep pushing on ANWR. He wants healthy debate. I would continue the good work he is commited to, government on the side of people, ending greed and corruption,Wasilla Main Street . Every-day working class Americans, get out of the way, don’t take my money and tell me what to do. Support a ticket that creates jobs and end war. Vs. a party that increases taxes. 4. Looking backwards! Not Bush Administration! Look ahead. Education, yeah, important, love your wife, yeah we need to focus more, ramp up funding in schools, pay teachers more. My family was school teachers. We need to increase standards, we need flexibility in No Child Left Behind. Public school. Need to ramp it up. |
Palin – what does VP do? Biden – would not be VP. So, what is it worth now. | 2. Education. John isn’t supporting any funding for anything. Role of VP – had a long talk like the governor did. I have a history of getting things done in the Senate. I’m the point person for legislative initiatives. Want help with governance to give best advice. He’s president, not me. Wants someone with independent judgment and freedom to disagree, and that’s my reputation. 4. VP Cheney is most dangerous VP in Americna history. Article I defines the role of the VP, he’s in the executive branch. The number one role is to support the president, and to preside over the senate to break ties. That’s the only authority for legislature, the whole idea is bizarre to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive.e | 1. It was a lame joke, so was yours, too. Preside over Senate (thankful). And John and I have had good conversations about how to lead in his agenda, government reform, energy independence, special needs families. That’s where John wants me to lead. 3. [Is the VP not executive?] The founders gave the Constitution a lot of flexibility to the VP. We will do what’s best for the etc etc etc – lots of flexibility, will do what we have to do, my executive experience as a governor and mayor and regulator and business owner. |
Conventional wisdom. Lack experience (Palin) or discipline (Biden) | 2. I’m not going to change. People can judge who I am. I will place my and Barack’s record of change against anyone. Crime bill, VAWA (McCain voted against), intervention inBosnia . Single parent. I know about a family . I am well off, I have a nice house, but (choking up) I understand. People are looking for help, not more of the same. 4. Love McCain, but he’s been no maverick on meaningful thigns. 4 of 5 times for Bush budgets. Voted against SCHIP. Not supporting college funding. War. No maverick in anything that really affects what people talk about around the table. He voted against heating oil support! yeesh! | 1. my experience as an executive willb e put to good use, a governor of a great energy producing state, energy independence, etc. Connection to heartland, a mom, son in the war, paying for tuition, etc. etc. etc. we know what other Americans are going through. That world view with John McCain –America is a nature of exceptionalism, shining city on hill as Reagan said, and unapologetic as a perfect ideal of democracy and tolerance and freedom and equal rights, force for good, rah rah rah! Team! Making a difference! Track record! 3. People are looking for change. Consumate maverick! Me, too! Bipartisan state governor. Look at McCain’s supporters – Lieberman, Giuliani, Romney, etc. These are tumultuous times. Etc. Repeat. Etc. Cannot allow partisanship inWashington , regardless of who’s in charge. |
Single issue you changed to accommodate changed cirucmstnaces | 1. On judiciary committee. Only thing that mattered was wheathr a presidential nominee was simply not a criminal. But realized that ideology makes a difference. Led charge against Bork. First chair of the judiciary that it’s important to know judicial philosophy. | 2. As mayor and governor passed judgement and didn’t veto, but realized had to work with legislature and needed to move along. Wanted to cut taxes, budget. But no major changes in principle, compromise, bipartisan, but working together, no matter who gets credit. |
Bipartisanship? How do you change the tone? | 1. I have been able to work across the aisle and work to change my party’s mind and the Republicans. Anecdote. Never question motives, just judgment, and so have been able to work so well with others. Fundamental change that Obama and I will bring. | 2. You appoint people regardless of party affiliation. My family is diverse politically. As long as we all work together. But the policies nad proposals have to speak for themselves. And now here’s a political generalization and attack on the other ticket. |
Closing statements | 2. This is the most important election in our lives. Eight years, deep hole in economy and foreign credibility. Fundamental change. Progress isn’t based on how well CEOs are doing or how well we cut regulations, but based on whether people can pay for their mortgage or send kid to college, etc. etc. etc. My neighborhood – dignity and respect, belief in self, work hard, you can accomplish anything. That’s why we’re running to make that possible. It’s time forAmerica to get back up, and we are ready, and etc. God bless American and, selfishly for both of us, our troops. | 1. Thanks! Such an honor, and chance to meet you, Joe. Like being able to answer these questions without the MSM filter, just want to talk to the people. [So why haven’t you?] We will fight for American family, we are a great country, etc., proud to be American, need to fight for freedoms. Reagan! Freedom! Need to fight for that freedom every generation. Future without freedom! There is only one man in this rece who has realy fought for you! McCain! |
After | Thanks! Thanks! Nervous chuckles. |
Post-debate … it was interesting that both families got up there, chatted, shook hands. Very different from McCain’s terse handshake with Obama and immediate shifting to hugging his wife and gladhanding the crowd …
Overall assessment:
The questions were okay. They hit most of the major points — but didn’t hit much on any controversial points (at least viz Palin). I mean, yeah, we got the gay marriage and the global warming questions … but no actual challenges to legitimacy, to experience, to creationism, to abortion …
Palin did okay, presence, glib. Not very strong on policy, more talking points … she didn’t blither too much at too many points. Lots of McCain rah-rah-rah. Some odd points (expanding the power of the VP, putting the US embassy in Jerusalem, facile answers, more than a few fact-checkable items). Shifted subjects at will, rather than reliably answering the questions (which she freely admitted). Didn’t talk much substance, much more rhetorical. And, of course, lacking (or dodging) direct challenges, she was able to let her coaching carry her along.
Good presence — none of that deer-in-the-headlights fumbling from the past interviews. Folksy (sometimes so much I could spew), and that will play well with some. What was funny is that she was willing to criticize Bush when she was being all “mavericky” (thank God that word wasn’t in the drinking game, or else I’d be on my way to the hospital), but whenever Biden did so, she chided him for dwelling on the past (in a Rovean fashion that was immensely irritating).
She talked to the camera, thus the audience.
Never really talked about about the specific differences between McCain and Bush — just that McCain’s a maverick, except for all the things on the war that McCain has always supported and is right about because Petraeus! Surge! Yay!
Nobody challenged her directly for not answering the questions more often than not.
(And for all the discussion of the Maverick Reformer, and despite her promise to Couric, I don’t think we heard any actual, specific, reforms that she was attributing to McCain.)
So if Palin wants to “avoid the MSM filter” and “just talk to the American people,” how is she going to do that? I mean, it’s not like either Gibson or Couric were shouting questions at her rat-a-tat. If that means she just wants to dialog without people following up with further questions — well, yeah, that I can believe.
Biden did a sober, calm, workmanlike job, growing stronger at the end. Policy-wonky, and a traditional debater. Sometimes stumbling over himself to hit all the points he wanted to get. I suspect there will be some fact-checking (less than Palin). He did focus most of his attacks on McCain, as advertised — but I almost wonder in retrospect if that was an error (the attacks on McCain were to be expected, and though reasonable will not change any minds); with Palin doing better than expected, he left that part of the field to her.
He spent too much time looking at the moderator, not the camera.
So, who won? Hrm.
For the Democratic faithful, Palin will not impress any further. Biden was reliably solid, not saying anything particularly goofy.
For the Republican faithful, Palin’s lack of self-destruction will probably be a huge sigh of relief. Some folks will probably be a bit fired up, others will simply be glad she didn’t embarrass the GOP ticket any further.
For the undecided, though … I don’t think this will shift many votes in one direction or another. Those who were worried about Palin will be marginally reassured, but I don’t see this adding any bump to the McCain ticket; at best (and this is non-trivial), she prevented any further losses based on her.
If nothing else, short of future melt-downs, she may have just saved her future political career. But any assessment of this as a “win” is only because it was less of a “loss” than practically every other interaction she’s been shown in since her ghost-written speech at the convention.